n00b question: how tough is to steer the ship through the canal? Is this a silly mistake or a genuine mistake? Will the Captain of the ship get fined? Who will foot the bill of this whole rescue operation? Also, how much extra cost & days will it take for a ship to take the other (longer) route?
Is that ship still stuck?
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Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#742It will be weeks before this ship is free. Fuel and oil can be pumped out but that only makes up a fraction of the total weight of the vessel. Containers can be unloaded but again the lightest will be at the top so a significant number will need to be removed to make a big enough difference. And unloading them will be a slow process. You can maybe unload a few per hour with helicopters. There doesn't exist any infras…
How about sectioning off a part of the canal around the ship and pumping water in?
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#743I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…
>Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. You're basically asking to build a port in the middle of the egyptian desert. That isn't going to happen. I say build a trebuchet on deck and start launching containers into the desert.
Push enough off, then pull them onto the ground. Truck them to the local market and get whatever you can.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#744Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would it not be easier to use Chinooks to remove cargo ?
Empty weight of a 40ft ISO is around 3,700kg Max weight of a container loaded is around 30,000kg Max payload of a Chinook around 11,000 kg near sea level at not high temp. (correct my number here from the wrong version of the Chinook...older versions were 4,500kg) So, if your container is a a quarter full, sure
The lighter ones will be at the top anyway to keep center of gravity correct.
Shipping company should know exact weights of each container for this and billing reasons.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#745Comedy option, what wacky cold war era aircraft do we have capable of lifting massive loads like a container ship? Perhaps an enormous fleet of Chinook helicopters could take it straight up?
The best comedy approach is to hire Planet Express to fly in a giant can of WD-40. That stuff will get anything unstuck.
Seriously underrated idea.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#746Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would it not be easier to use Chinooks to remove cargo ?
Empty weight of a 40ft ISO is around 3,700kg Max weight of a container loaded is around 30,000kg Max payload of a Chinook around 11,000 kg near sea level at not high temp. (correct my number here from the wrong version of the Chinook...older versions were 4,500kg) So, if your container is a a quarter full, sure
What’s the math like if you use 4 Chinooks? One on each corner. Someone, break down the component forces.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#747Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go, go gadget globalisation! Seriously though that's pretty amazing. Fun fact: corporations used to exist for a limit period of time, to solve a particular problem, and were then dissolved. With the introduction of indefinite corporations, we end up with cool setups like those /u/throwawaybutwhy has highlighted.
When and where did they exist for a limited period of time? It never even occurred to me that this was an option
Railways.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#748Can't wait for elon to offer a solution...
Tell him Egypt is planning to use a hundred Ford F150s to drag the boat, and see how quick he can get a comparable number of Cybertrucks and/or model Ss and 3s to show up. (Realistically, Egypt would probably use bulldozers if they actually wanted to go that route.)
I mean, a single Volvo semi was able to move 750 tons, and it's in production, unlike the Tesla Semi.
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#749Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tell him Egypt is planning to use a hundred Ford F150s to drag the boat, and see how quick he can get a comparable number of Cybertrucks and/or model Ss and 3s to show up. (Realistically, Egypt would probably use bulldozers if they actually wanted to go that route.)
If we're going to pick vaporware for the job why not use the Tesla semi?
Check this out, its real and not vaporware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yw4Qp8bX4
Re: Is that ship still stuck?
#750Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps the classic beached whale clearing technique [0] would work. [0] https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34
holy crap amazing. Why doesn't news editorialize like this anymore like this reporter did at the end? Simple, obvious, and stated fairly. You don't always need to talk to the guy who thought the whale hailstorm was still a good idea.
Journalism, a lost art.