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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by chrismcb »

aetimmes wrote: post #587
h3cate wrote: post #565

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Why is it your civic duty? What will you having this vaccine do for anybody but yourself?

* because there are people who, due to age or immuno-compromisation or allergic response, cannot safely take the vaccine, so those who can safely take it should help contribute to herd immunity * because there are many people out of work whose livelihoods depend on the types of establishments closed or restricted by COVID (restaurants, theaters, etc) * because safely interacting with other human beings in-person is g…

How do you know if you cannot safely take the vaccine?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by rglullis »

guscost wrote: post #721
rglullis wrote: post #709

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You should really find the comments I made on the thread before jumping to any conclusions about whether I disagree or not. The point I'm trying to understand is that you are basically saying "I am not getting because I don't want to and it is within my rights to not take it", which is totally fine. But I am failing to see how this is a "principled" statement. It's like saying "I will smoke a pack of cigarettes in my…

The glaring difference between this situation and your analogy: There is no faction of “ban smoking in the bathtub” zealots getting ready to bully, intimidate, and otherwise coerce the people who want to smoke in the bathtub. Like it or not, this is a political issue, and your choice has a political effect.

Faction or not, you still have not established a principle to justify taking the action in the first place and so far all you've got was some circular logic. That's all I've objected to in your original post.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by CyberDildonics »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #251
rob74 wrote: post #123

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Or (c) I will tell everyone that I'm waiting so that more at-risk people can have access it to first, but secretly I'll be happy others are field-testing it for me...

Or (d) I will wait to see if Corona mutates so much over the next year that the vaccine is a yearly process. Edit: I feel like some people didn’t notice the mink culling in Denmark which was caused by fears that version of the virus would make the vaccines useless.

Even if there was another strain, why would it make the current vaccine useless when the current strain still exists?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by mensetmanusman »

rglullis wrote: post #644
mensetmanusman wrote: post #509

Yes, hopefully the mRNA version! Excited to try new technology.

The last thing we should want in our bodies is "new technology". This is not a gadget for you to be excited about. This is not a Captain America or Spider-man origin story. This is someone writing code in most complex language you can think of and testing it in production without any way to do a roll-back.

The virus is mRNA telling your body to make more, the vaccine is mRNA telling your body to make a small useless spike. Our bodies are amazing in their resiliency, we are constantly reading mistaken mRNA throughout our lives.

This is a great breakthrough to be able to use this to our advantage.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by notatoad »

dmix wrote: post #484
notatoad wrote: post #470

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this is exactly it. based on my demographic, i'm going to be one of the last in line. I'm not going to be trying to jump ahead in that line because i'm not an asshole and i know other people need it more than I do. but also I'm a little bit of an asshole, so i'm kind of reassured to know that hundreds of millions of people will have gotten it before me, and if there are any issues there will have been plenty of time…

The other half of it, for the early days at least, is the fear of lining up with hundreds of people who are more likely to be high risk people. Putting yourself in higher risk. My pharmacy does COVID testing but only if you show no symptoms. The gov health networks tell symptomatic people to be tested in hospital set up centers. But high risk people are still high risk people, whether they are showing symptoms or not…

I have enough faith in my local health authorities to assume that the line won't be a literal lineup with hundreds of people.

If my local bike shop has figured out the concept of no-contact service appointments by now, I'm pretty sure the health department can do it.

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Post by CyberDildonics »

IgorPartola wrote: post #293
oldie wrote: post #249

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For young people, the risk of death is low, but even young people can suffer from long Covid: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470 >.

I have heard rumors in the medical field that it’s possible that having had COVID might be considered a preexisting condition in the future. Imagine having COVID now, fully recovering, then developing an unrelated lung disease 10 years later just to find out that insurance won’t cover anything to do with it because they’ll just blame it on COVID.

I've heard rumors in the medical field that it's impossible that having had COVID might be considered a preexisting condition in the future.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by seamyb88 »

Smaug123 wrote: post #337
mvanbaak wrote: post #68

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Ok. So you will stay in quarantine in tour home that whole time you wait

Everyone keeps saying this like it's a bad thing! I didn't leave the house for three months back in March, and it was great. The ability to work from home, a functioning Internet, and a pre-existing Brexit stockpile which came in handy unexpectedly early. I would happily be dropped to the bottom of the vaccine queue.

You really get to see who isn't happy with their lives at home. Many for reasons I'm sympathetic to, but a comparable many who really need to reevaluate their shit.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #734
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #250

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I was in Germany in October and with the individual the day they took the second shot. France is a professional contact who mentioned it on the phone, as is China. Same thing happened with tests a few months ago in Palo Alto. Billionaires with boxes of them at their homes while public stocks ran low.

They had boxes of which vaccine? They all need to be refrigerated. Is this something you saw, heard about second hand or something you read on an open internet forum?

> They had boxes of which vaccine?

Boxes of the test kits. I was giving precedence. Frankly surprised this is news to so many people. It’s well known in e.g. D.C. circles.

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