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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by atrainedmonkey »

grezql wrote: post #739

I am tired of this 2trillion company becoming too strong. Screw them. I aint gonna develop for them anymore. Parasites. Got this mail from Apple: Dear Developer, Compatible iOS and iPadOS apps will automatically appear on the Mac App Store when the first Apple silicon Macs become available this year. However, we noticed the following issues with one or more of your apps that are opted in to appear. The following apps…

Maybe I didn't parse the sarcasm tags, but they're opening up a whole new market of mac owners to your product with what's likely minimal effort?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by skinnymuch »

nmg wrote: post #550
tekstar wrote: post #545

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2012 Macbook Pro. Get the highest-spec Magsafe laptop you can find.

I second this. Catalina runs great on my 15" mid-2015 16GB/1TB, and it even runs shockingly well (bootstrapped) on my (unsupported) 13" mid-2009 8GB/512GB. The 2009-2015 era of Macbooks are, not were, truly phenomenal machines.

What does bootstrapped mean? I’m surprised with Catalina running well on a 2009 MacBook. I felt it was slow on a Mac Mini 2014 where it is supported and went down one version.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by MperorM »

narrator wrote: post #292
heavyset_go wrote: post #45

Again, it turns out that Stallman[1] and others[2] were prescient. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html [2] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

Don't forget the World Economic Forum, but they're happy about all this: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-real...

The author, Ida Augen is without a doubt one of Denmark's most respectable and intelligent politicians.

The article sohuld not be read as an endorsement of that future. It's her prediction of what the world is going to look like, for better or for worse.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by bluelu »

How can this be GDPR compliant? Apple tracks each users behaviour and know exactly what software they use and how often, so they can launch their own services and cut out competition on popular services.

This is exactly the kind of application Facebook was called out for (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/). Just here it's much more worse as it's installed and activated by default on all Macs.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by mrmonkeyman »

tomxor wrote: post #613
auslegung wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... Idk, the several Linux distros I’ve used recently, and Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ put up with”

The thing you get with Linux is "more _predictable_ shit to deal with", not "less shit to deal with", no large capable desktop OS is perfect and never will be. Anxiety from what Apple's agenda will do to your computer next update? anxiety from if a 1hr windows update is awaiting you when you turn your pc on? ... Linux awaits.

Just don't update anything.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by hk__2 »

root_axis wrote: post #505
hk__2 wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Champions of privacy, phoning home a hash of every executable your computer runs! What’s the matter with privacy? That’s a basic signature check, and you can do so while preserving privacy by using salted hashes or a similar solution.

A centralized repository of all your executable hashes is a high precision fingerprint.

Yes it is, but merely sending hashes doesn’t mean such a centralized repository exists. We need more information on the actual implementation.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by nubero »

areoform wrote: post #533
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

The only tool in that video you linked to is that dishonest cheerleader Gruber.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by rleigh »

snowwrestler wrote: post #589
elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

This issue is clearly a bug. It is an accidental denial of service attack on the client. It will get fixed pretty easily: Apple will add some combination of a timeout and a request back-off to their client, to properly handle the situation of a server that is reachable but not sufficiently responsive. Apple clearly does not mean to make their devices unresponsive if the server is offline, because pointing requests at…

I disagree. It isn't a bug because it was explicitly designed to behave this way.

The solution won't be to fix a defect, but to change the design, which is completely flawed. They should have pushed revocations from the beginning rather than requiring every system on the planet to poll a service. What were they thinking? And that does make one wonder whether there weren't other reasons for this behaviour besides "security".

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