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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Are PC games that important?

It's a multi-billion dollar industry, is this a real question?

>It's a multi-billion dollar industry

It's actually a tiny industry with a revenue of Oracle.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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post #59

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I'm sad Windows still has a (basic) monopoly on computer gaming.

Who told you that? Look at all the games on steam proton. All the best indi games run fine on linux. I was playing eve online last night and subnautica a few days ago. Ksp, factorio, minecraft ... there are tons of great games on linux.

Are there Linux exclusive titles?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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They're forcing people to online accounts by putting the offline option in the basement, it's the standard 'nudge' in software. Eventually they'll eliminate it completely. Some would consider this one a dark pattern, I would agree in this case.

Except maybe in a “home edition” that can’t eliminate it completely. Businesses will flip their shit if employees needed an MS account. It would mean the death of Windows.

Just migrate your business accounts to Microsoft.

I bet some companies will end up doing exactly that. For others there will probably remain an exception that will cost extra.

(I may be saying this as if it's normal, but I need to turn up my cynicism quite a bit to fit this reality.)

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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I'm wondering if this is really the right move as in "desktop is definitely going down and everything will be web based". In that case sure, why bother throwing money at it. But should we realize in a couple years that this was overhyped and desktop OS and apps won't go away, everyone will have migrated to OSX or Linux if Windows quality continues to decline at that rate.

> But should we realize in a couple years that this was overhyped and desktop OS and apps won't go away, everyone will have migrated to OSX or Linux if Windows quality continues to decline at that rate. Windows still claims nearly 80% of desktop market share, while OS X has less than 15%. Linux is around 2%. Assuming people in any significant number care about having to use an online account is naive. Apple requires…

I wasn't exclusively referring to the online account here. Every update seems to break something in very stupid ways or change things around for no apparent reason. Friends working as admins in companies can't stop complaining over the last two updates. On every family meet up there's someone seeking tech support and I can just shrug and tell them the last version of Windows I really used was 7 and then my current dual boot alternative is still 8.1 which I need like twice a year. Which is immediately countered with "oh yeah I wish things were still like in XP or 7". And yes the most valid argument currently comes from enterprise customers depending on some expensive and important Windows only software. But that argument will only be true until it isn't anymore and then what? Since when has it ever worked out for some tech company to just stop investing in a product and try to milk the cash cow forever? Luckily Microsoft has a lot of other things going on like azure so it won't be the end of them, but that just brings us back to my initial comment: Is it the right move to let Windows go over the next decade and refocus, our might they regret it?

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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I've switched to Linux + Mint in part because I don't want to be using Windows any more. Many of my games work with Steam on Linux now, actually. With Google's docs/drive, everything works cross platform. I really have no productivity loss by not using Windows any more.

> With Google's docs/drive, everything works cross platform What do you use instead of Google Backup and Sync client? I haven't found something that works like that. The "best" thing I've found is the FUSE Ocaml filesystem ( https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse ) but still it is a "mounted" over network filesystem and not a sync-on-change solution. I tried InSync but could not make it work and it is not…

I also use NextCloud but we need something like that written in a faster tech like Golang.

For periodic filesystem backup snapshots I use Restic.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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I have been using Arch Linux for 5+ years exclusively and I don't plan to change that. There have been a few issues over time, but overall it meets all my needs. Even video editing is fine with Kdenlive, Cinelerra GG or OpenShot. Gaming support improved with DXVK and Lutris. There is VSCodium IDE and also webapps are popular. Unless you must use SW like Photoshop, there is little reason to use Windows anymore... Just check HW compatibility when buying a new HW (e.g. printer, scanner support) and you will be fine.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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If you don’t have IT specialists you don’t have people administering your PCs professionally. Given that your stated alternative was home users, you seem to have excluded just about the entire world of small businesses with that definition. They might not have dedicated IT staff, but they still need to be able to administer their systems and in many cases a designated person will still be responsible for doing so. Th…

I am answering the question, > Is there anyone that even knows what "Domain join" means? And the answer is, “IT specialists supporting Windows in corporate environments.” Generally speaking. I honestly cannot understand the motive or purpose for the rest of your comment, which seems to be about the needs of small businesses, which is not germane. > Given that your stated alternative was home users, you seem to have e…

Ah, sorry, it seems I misinterpreted your original comment. I thought you were defending Microsoft's decision to hide creation of a local account behind the deceptive button name, on the basis that those who were setting these PCs up in a business environment would know what it meant anyway.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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post #483

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Just a small correction: >on Windows you need to download and update it manually you don't need to update it manually, it will show a popup that an update is available and will update itself once approved.

It used to direct you to their website to manually download and install it. Given how often it is updated most people started ignoring those pop-ups.

Maybe that used to be the case? For at least the last few VS Code updates, it's been entirely in-app. The update is downloaded in the background, and VS Code then prompts you to restart the app to apply the update.
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