Why I’m done with Chrome • Hacker News Board

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by merpnderp » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:22 PM UTC

wyclif wrote: post #439

jwr wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are on MacOS, why don't you use Safari? I'm puzzled as to why people seem to dismiss the "built-in" browser. It's the fastest, smoothest, best integrated, and least power-hungry browser on the platform. I regularly use all three major browsers (for testing, I write web applications) and I consistently switch back to Safari for all my non-special browsing.

This past weekend I tried Safari again when I saw it updated to version 12. I was surprised to see that Apple deactivated my uBlock Origin plugin, saying it would slow the browser down. So now Safari is unusable and filled with ads, and there's nothing Apple provides to replace uBlock Origin. This is a total show-stopper for me.

You might be thankful it was deactivated - it might have not been legit.

https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/69

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by eudora » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:23 PM UTC

I'd strongly suggest people create separate users in the browser, one for daily, one for Google, one for Facebook. This way in my regular browsing there's no Facebook or Google cookies reporting on what websites I visit.

And with this new change, presumably in your daily profile, your browser remains signed out also.

It's really easy and doesn't impact at all on workflow, if you want your Gmail you just click the user button, and click Google. You could even set that user's homepage to Gmail.

That said, you could also just switch to Firefox or Brave.

(Copy pastaing myself. With an addendum: I don't know if this will actually result in less of your private data compromised, but it seems plausible)

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by crc32 » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:24 PM UTC

eudora wrote: post #742

I'd strongly suggest people create separate users in the browser, one for daily, one for Google, one for Facebook. This way in my regular browsing there's no Facebook or Google cookies reporting on what websites I visit. And with this new change, presumably in your daily profile, your browser remains signed out also. It's really easy and doesn't impact at all on workflow, if you want your Gmail you just click the use…

Firefox has a feature called "Containers", which is kind of this concept but with perhaps a better UX.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by tinus_hn » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:25 PM UTC

They are pulling the same tricks with the iOS apps, if you use Google Maps not logged in and you login to one of the Google Docs apps your Maps activity is now associated with your account once again. It’s sleazy and it’s a shame Apple doesn’t allow you to block it (this developer is not allowed to share information between apps and websites)

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by jasonlotito » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:26 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #504

brandonjm wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. That could have a very simple explanation: There is no Wikipedia page for "Gun Rights". There is however a Wikipedia page for "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" which is exactly what appears in the Wikipedia box on the right or as the first Wikipedia article when you search for "right to bear…

You are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms This is coming right up when you look for "gun rights" on DuckDuckGo.

That's the top Wikipedia link in the search results when searching for "gun rights"

I don't see the issue.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by rb666 » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:27 PM UTC

clarkmoody wrote: post #408

partiallypro wrote: post #248

Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

Gun control = gun rights. Just a different, and more popular and common, way of looking at it.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by adestefan » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:28 PM UTC

tinus_hn wrote: post #744

They are pulling the same tricks with the iOS apps, if you use Google Maps not logged in and you login to one of the Google Docs apps your Maps activity is now associated with your account once again. It’s sleazy and it’s a shame Apple doesn’t allow you to block it (this developer is not allowed to share information between apps and websites)

I also noticed this weekend that the iOS Youtube app now asks if links should be opened in Safari or Chrome. If Chrome isn't installed on the device the button says "Install" instead of "Open." I don't know how new this is, but it's pretty sleezy.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by eudora » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:29 PM UTC

clarkmoody wrote: post #408

partiallypro wrote: post #248

Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

I was searching for an exact phrase in quotes the other day, which happened to be close - but not the same - as a popularly monetisable phrase.

The entire results were full of the other phrase and not the one I searched for.

I kinda hate AI.

(Because it's dumb. Do what I told you, not what you think I want)

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by eudora » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:30 PM UTC

fetbaffe wrote: post #623

mfukar wrote: post #608

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Interesting. I have the opposite experience. Searching to try and find _new_ content just presents me with videos/playlists I usually have already clicked/watched.

That is what my YouTube home screen looks like, old already viewed content, however not the old vidoes that I need again.

I get this too.

It's bizarre to see "video you watched 4 times 5 years ago" on your homepage. Every day.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by eudora » Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:31 PM UTC

clarkmoody wrote: post #408

partiallypro wrote: post #248

Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

I wonder if you're in your own filter bubble.

As in, if some full blown NRA guy searched gun rights, what would he get?