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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by oaiey » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:47 PM UTC

foepys wrote: post #560

oaiey wrote: post #494

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I find the argument that Gitlab is community driven a joke. They are not. And they never can. The community edition can never be ready for more than git hosting. We were recently evaluating it, and found that basic needs like code reviews are not covered. And their hiding of LDAP Integration (luckily the extended community stepped in and duplicated their module) is a joke.

I don't get your point. GitLab has basic code reviews [1, 2] and LDAP support [3]. LDAP support is better in EE than in CE but that's expected. What is missing for you? 1: https://gitlab.com/help/user/project/merge_requests/merge_re... 2: https://docs.gitlab.com/ce/development/code_review.html 3: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/administration/auth/ldap-ee.html

Exactly. (1) is Enterprise edition, same as proper (3) LDAP Integration.

And I forgot about squashing :)

All I say: it is expected. Gitlab is capable, just not in all editions

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by lovich » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:47 PM UTC

Nullabillity wrote: post #609

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I can see, or kinda see your point for all of these except for the Xbox. Why would you want them to drop that?

It's a crappy desktop computer stuck in a walled garden.

It is, but a lot of people want that instead of a desktop and the work necessary to maintain that. I don't think my toaster is crappy just because it can only make toast even though I could use an oven which has more capabilities

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by oaiey » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:48 PM UTC

markand wrote: post #516

oaiey wrote: post #471

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The job part is not the story of Nat Friedman but Migual de Icaza.

Not sure about the job part being about Miguel, but it's certainly not true about Nat. Nat interned at Microsoft in 97 and I was his manager. He did a great job and was well liked. I don't think he ever applied for a full time position after graduating as I would have heard about it. I think it's just that he wanted to do something Open Source based, rather than what Microsoft was doing at the time.

Thanks for the insights! Miguel had Visa issues if I remember it right and could not get a job because of this.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by TuringNYC » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:48 PM UTC

bigmanwalter wrote: post #732

TuringNYC wrote: post #700

When Microsoft acquired Skype, there were a subset of accounts that essentially became un-useable for close to 2yrs. There was a sub-sub case where if you had a Skype ID that was an email (not a username) which was also a pre-existing Microsoft email, your profile became unreachable and passwords could not be reset either. This is from personal experience and validated with a half dozen other people in the same sub-s…

Thank you for saying the Skype ID thing here. I thought I had gone crazy....

Same thing here! I thought I had gone crazy until I started interacting with more more people online that had the same exact problem. Honestly, it became an obsession to figure out for me because I started feeling stupid not being able to figure it out...turns out there was no way out of this corner case!

Microsoft bought Skype in May 2011 for $8.5 billion. Think about the magnitude of dysfunction for a post-merger integration to only partially succeed despite this price tag!

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by oaiey » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:49 PM UTC

markand wrote: post #516

oaiey wrote: post #471

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The job part is not the story of Nat Friedman but Migual de Icaza.

Not sure about the job part being about Miguel, but it's certainly not true about Nat. Nat interned at Microsoft in 97 and I was his manager. He did a great job and was well liked. I don't think he ever applied for a full time position after graduating as I would have heard about it. I think it's just that he wanted to do something Open Source based, rather than what Microsoft was doing at the time.

You must be proud of Nat :)

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by cdelsolar » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:51 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #738

sushisource wrote: post #580

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They could also do it regardless of whether or not Microsoft owns them or whatever favorite acronym authorizes them, or whatever. I've never understood why people love freaking out about this stuff. If the NSA felt like spying on you, pro tip, they're gonna be able to do it. If you care about keeping your shit secure, it shouldn't be on the internet at all.

> If the NSA felt like spying on you, pro tip, they're gonna be able to do it. True, but I suppose it matters how easy/difficult it is for them to do that.

The NSA is not god, they can't break 2048-bit TLS encryption no matter how many computers they have.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by jenscow » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:51 PM UTC

joelhandwell wrote: post #717

Submitted an issue to dear-github. "Host Github by itself as open source project" https://github.com/dear-github/dear-github/issues/304 Issue body: Microsoft open sourced Xamarin after acquisition and it was good for community. Open sourcing Github source will benefit open source community. Github was not open source for its own reason and it could be same reason why Xamarin was not. Now that Github acquired by Micro…

I'm sure that will happen right away, considering they're "all-in on open source".

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by felixgallo » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:57 PM UTC

ngomez wrote: post #727

felixgallo wrote: post #569

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incorrect. That page tells you about diagnostic telemetry, but there can be other kinds of telemetry.

Can you point to an example of telemetry that Windows is collecting that isn't documented and shown?

that's the entire point. We don't know, because they still won't tell us.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by stredicke » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:58 PM UTC

It is no surprise GitHub got sold; look at the investors and you know that they invested to sell later. We were worried about cloud repositories already some time ago, even started our own project (gitstorage.com) to be prepared whatever happens (we are totally relaxed about the GitHub takeover). It could have been worse. There are other companies with lots of cash that would have worried me a lot more. One interesting thought was that whoever owns GitHub can feed the open and also the closed source into their AI machine to learn how to code properly. IMHO the terms of service of GitHub allow that because AI is not considered a third party. This could have some significant benefit keeping in mind that good code tends to rule the world; and Microsoft understands how to use AI and has the actual means to do something like that. This is speculative, maybe one day the history books will tell us what was the main driver for this transaction.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by jhasse » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 6:59 PM UTC

disposablename wrote: post #714

jhasse wrote: post #244

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* Drop DirectX for Vulkan * Drop MSVC for Clang or GCC * Drop Edge for Firefox or Chromium because they love open-source, right?

Yes, let's have fewer choices for everything! That is sure to spur innovation!

There are a lot of situations where people don't have a choice but to use DirectX or MSVC. Same was true for Internet Explorer.

It's only a choice if we have open standards so you can actually choose between different implementations.