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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by laumars »

wolco wrote: post #634
laumars wrote: post #506

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Because Disney aren't just competing with Netflix and co; they're also competing with usenet services, torrents, Kodi streams and other illegal services. And because Disney keep fucking their own consumers about it's left a void where the illegal services have not only been able to raise the bar in terms of user experience, but also in terms of available content and video quality. In any other industry market forces…

Disney was important in our time but kids growing up on netflix may never see disney content the same way.

Maybe their traditional animated movies but Disney have expanded out quite a bit in recent year.

The Pixar movies are loved by my kids and while they're still a bit young for the Marvel stuff the eldest is already a big superhero fan (particularly Spiderman) so I can see him really enjoying Disney's Marvel universe when he is older. And lets not forget how seminal Star Wars is even with the younger generation.

So I'm not so sure I'm ready to write Disney off with regards to the Netflix generation.

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by cloudkj »

mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #623

What about the engineering of Netflix? I see lots of comments here about pricing and how content distribution in Hollywood is messed, etc. If Disney has acquired a streaming facility, how will they compare to how Netflix is engineered? Will they have apps, sub-accounts, lists of favorites, and be able to move from device to device and pick up where you left off? I have to guess that Disney's depth of content is prett…

Don't forget about the personalization and recommendations technology, which accounts for 75% of viewing. https://medium.com/netflix-techblog/netflix-recommendations-...

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by mrcsparker »

yvhhjbb wrote: post #728
blitmap wrote: post #696

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For me I think movies mean less than they used to. We are spoiled with the amount of entertainment constantly being released to us nowadays. I will not go buy a movie or see a movie at the theater anymore - no matter what it is. It could be the most anticipated film in a half a decade and I'll still wait for it to be conveniently streamed to me. Maybe I'm getting old, but I feel like people don't create movie librari…

> Disney thinks I'll tack on another streaming service to watch Mulan or Captain America: Civil War - but they're wrong... How long have you been single for, if you don't mind me asking? It's not for you dude, it's for the kids.

I will probably subscribe for that reason. Disney knows this about parents. They are one of the few companies that could put together their own offering

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Post by mattm »

lostcolony wrote: post #656
Mindwipe wrote: post #554

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Because there aren't enough people like you who would to pay for it to cover the costs of even a lawyer reviewing the contracts to see who owns the rights (and the answer will be not a single party, actors/music/artwork etc rights involved in all will be incredibly complex), never mind actually pay anyone involved. There are lots of things I would like someone to make at a reasonable price too (roll on my line of all…

If that's the case that stuff needs to enter the public domain. We need better legislation around orphaned works; those whose ownership is too complex to resolve should be treated the same as those whose ownership is completely lost. In both cases, ownership can't be reasonably determined.

Yes, this is the real issue. If copyright was reasonable - say 40-50 years - then a lot of this stuff would naturally enter the public domain and then could be shown on any streaming service.

Instead we have the current copyright system because a minuscule amount of old content is still profitable and large companies lobby to protect it.

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Post by jotjotzzz »

nkkollaw wrote: post #216
geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

If I had a dollar for every time I tried to stream a movie legally and couldn't find it anywhere but on torrent sites...

What about this scenario -- you decided to BUY the movie via Blu-Ray or DVD, but then they force you to go through and see the previews before letting you watch the movie you bought. And not letting you skip the previews. These companies don't have a clue.

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Post by nkkollaw »

jotjotzzz wrote: post #745
nkkollaw wrote: post #216

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If I had a dollar for every time I tried to stream a movie legally and couldn't find it anywhere but on torrent sites...

What about this scenario -- you decided to BUY the movie via Blu-Ray or DVD, but then they force you to go through and see the previews before letting you watch the movie you bought. And not letting you skip the previews. These companies don't have a clue.

I agree.

Torrents are more convenient, and better quality.

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Post by thanatropism »

dragonwriter wrote: post #721
thanatropism wrote: post #644

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I find them better than TV, pound for pound. For example, _Backstrom_ is a shitty House clone in many senses, but is a much better detective show than _Elementary_. They have more feedback data and often great "production values" (i.e. they spent the extra money to make it nice). It doesn't always pay off (how stupid was _Marseille_, with Gerard Depardieu at his best acting chops in years and a political story that m…

Uh, Backstrom was a broadcast (Fox) series cancelled after a single season. It's not a Netflix original, so it's alleged superiority to successful broadcast series like Elementary is not, even granting for the sake of argument that it is superior, an indication of the superiority of Netflix's shows.

Oh god. I'll see if HN lets me delete my comment.

I'm really bad with my facts this week.

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Post by lucb1e »

rhaps0dy wrote: post #577
lucb1e wrote: post #569

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Grooveshark was a lot better than Spotify, both in functionality and in offering, but alas... Youtube is probably the most complete but (1) I don't want to waste bandwidth on downloading the video every time I try to listen to music and (2) it's missing the discovery component that dedicated music services have.

As a solution to (1) you can use youtube-dl https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ It supports downloading only the audio.

Thanks for mentioning it, I love that tool (even got this on my phone in a Debian subsystem). Still, it's not suitable as a replacement for Spotify: the discovery element is too useful :/

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Post by nebabyte »

byuu wrote: post #395
nxsynonym wrote: post #69

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Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

Unfortunately, Amazon is a large part of the problem too. People who want to watch Japanese cartoons get to pay for yet another streaming service, and for years there was a split where we had to pay for both Crunchyroll and Funimation. We finally saw light at the end of the tunnel with the advent of a partnership to share content. Only it turned out to be an Amazon freight train in the form of Anime Strike, which not…

> These companies are never going to learn

They're not trying to learn, they already know. If you continue to think they are optimizing for your happiness you're the one who'll never learn.

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Post by nebabyte »

iends wrote: post #445
nebabyte wrote: post #353

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If we move fully into that model, how long do you think it will be before they realize merging with smaller networks to start hiking prices is more lucrative than letting people pick and choose?

That model is clearly not working currently.

> kill competition, then raise the prices

Do I really have to go over econ 101 with you? The past distro channels look to "not work" while there's a better alternative; once the latter have a monopoly - oh fuck it, just sit back and pay attention.

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