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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Open letter to Atlassian: Trello are an amazing team and an amazing product, and what makes the product so amazing is how domain-agnostic it is. They refuse at all costs to add any feature that helps use Trello in one specific way over others (e.g. lists = stages in task lifetime, cards = tasks; lists = assigned people, cards = tasks; lists = dates, cards = events, ...), and that made Trello equally useful as a Kanba…

Have you found that non-techy people are learning Markdown to use on trello?

No, they just use plaintext.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

> Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size. If anyone here has ever been confused by the expression "damning with faint praise", I hope this is an illustrative example.

I think in this case it's meant to mean "project management and task tracking tools are basically always hateful, but I find this one the least hateful".

I once, over a beer, told the development team of a ticketing system that I'd never used anything I hated less than theirs, and they all grinned and said that that was high praise to them.

If you believe you can produce such a system that people actually like to use, rather than finding less hateful than the alternatives, I genuinely invite you to try, because I'd love to have such a thing available to me. But I'm afraid I'll remain skeptical until I see it :)

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Plus Fog Creek is more on an anti-start-up since it explicitly did not want to grow fast at all costs. That's why Trello was spun off.

Do all start ups have to grow at all costs? I know it's standard for most start-ups to accept as much VC money as possible and find ways to spend it, but there are also young companies that don't need VC money and are successful. Don't know why those shouldn't be start-ups.

Because we already have the terms "small business" and "ISV" to refer to small companies which are happily making small profits and not trying to take over the world.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Speaking as someone that works with Mercurial on daily basis, and also makes/sells software that supports Mercurial. I can tell you it's far from beeing legacy.

Some people work with COBOL on a daily basis. It's still antiquated.

What determines if a technology is considered legacy is not if there exists someone out there using it, but rather whether there are people actively adopting it at present. In this regard, Mercurial has slowed down and Git has clearly won the game.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Some people work with COBOL on a daily basis. It's still antiquated.

What determines if a technology is considered legacy is not if there exists someone out there using it, but rather whether there are people actively adopting it at present. In this regard, Mercurial has slowed down and Git has clearly won the game.

There are companies adopting mercurial as they VCS of choice, either by moving out of svn, or choosing a new VCS

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I think Atlassian is indeed acquiring Trello to fit it in with the rest of their suite. This is probably going to be done to the detriment of the other use cases. On the bright side, this might pave the way for a new product in this space, or some open-source tools which replicate the same basic funtionality.

Open source alternatives are already out there. Wekan is one of the more popular ones. I'm not sure if it has all of the features of Trello as I haven't used Trello extensively. https://github.com/wekan/wekan

Looking at the screenshot it looks more like a ripoff than an alternative. I am an open source advocate in almost everything, but that kind of ripping of / stealing ideas leave a bad taste.

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Don't know what kind of stuff you are using over there, but Bitbucket has been fantastic for us for over a year already. About to start trying their Bamboo service. At most, this is welcome news if they manage to integrate Trello with Jira somehow.

Bamboo (cloud) is end-of-lifed so you might want to reconsider that purchase! (Pipelines is their new alternative). (Yes you could buy the Bamboo self-hosted thing, which they're still supporting, but it's clear where their efforts are going at this point). EDIT: Also, I should add some opinion here. We used to use Bamboo for 2+ years and ditched it (for Jenkins). Bamboo has a horrible UI, and everything basically ha…

Was trying to avoid self-hosted devops as much since after hosting my own Gitolite server before using bitbucket, I learned to not try to do everything ourselves. The gitolite setup proved to be very functional and nice, after everything was setup that is, but it is a bit of a hassle in the maintenance department and definitely something that took its sweet time from other pressing matters at the time.

But based on what you said, I guess I can try Jenkins over the weekend on a pet project to see how it goes and then compare if it really is too much of a hassle. Thanks!

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