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Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by heartbreak »

Clubber wrote: post #128
mudil wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FDA thing is really really scary if you are sick. This situation is clearly illustrated in the movie Dallas Buyer's Club.

Yes, that's also the primary reason EpiPen can charge so much for their device. Their competitors' products were blocked / backlogged by the FDA. http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/01/49223579...

Isn't that throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Individual data points of a regulation being used for a corrupt end, doesn't mean the regulation is worthless and should be removed.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by farright »

pmarreck wrote: post #195
ainot wrote: post #168

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> The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority High brow smack (condescension) like that and "basket of deplorables" are what America revolted against. If the liberal left was truly smart, why did they allow the president to run up more national debt than all presidents prior...combined?

Has it become that radical to suggest that smart, well-educated people may in fact see further into the consequences of things (particularly in their areas of expertise, but probably also peripherally), see more cognitive bias, have better critical-thinking skills, remember more mistakes from history, and all around make better long-term decisions? Why is that even offensive to anyone? Just because of someone's perso…

The problem is that liberals sneer at other people regardless of their actual qualifications or education. No on here has presented evidence that they are more educated or qualified than Trump, and yet they are taking it for granted that Trump's view is the view of the uneducated. That is the problem.

As to the wider point that more educated people are more liberal, there is plenty of evidence that liberal views are forced on people in the education system. That doesn't mean people are liberal because they are smart. If all universities were Christian, as they once were, that wouldn't prove that Christians were smarter.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by swsieber »

tribune wrote: post #717
bduerst wrote: post #630

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That's a lie. Trump courted and accepted money from special interests - there was even a Planet Money podcast on it.

Sure he did - but nearly as much as did Clinton. This election absolutely proved that a candidate can't simple "buy" an election

You're right - he demonstrated one can flaunt bigotry and appeal to our basest emotions to get equal media attention wothout paying for it.

So in my opinion he hasn't demonstrated anything useful.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by toomanybeersies »

mrschwabe wrote: post #602
inostia wrote: post #549

How did I not see this before the election (even if it came out 102316 as evidenced in the file name)? Why did NYT/Guardian/all of the news sites that I regularly visit not report this? This is a clear policy proposal, contrary to everything I had read that said he had no clear plan.

Bookmark some more news sites so you get a wider spectrum. Smaller independent operations (ex: Breitbart, Drudge Report) are less vulnerable to being co-opted or politically motivated. Also, r/The_Donald is has been an excellent aggregate for all things related to the campaign. Also, see Wikileaks to get an idea of how bad the bias/corruption has been in the media (ex: CNN giving HRC questions in advance of debates […

The absence of leaks from the RNC doesn't mean that the RNC doesn't do the same things as the DNC.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by xerxes777 »

pmarreck wrote: post #195
ainot wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority High brow smack (condescension) like that and "basket of deplorables" are what America revolted against. If the liberal left was truly smart, why did they allow the president to run up more national debt than all presidents prior...combined?

Has it become that radical to suggest that smart, well-educated people may in fact see further into the consequences of things (particularly in their areas of expertise, but probably also peripherally), see more cognitive bias, have better critical-thinking skills, remember more mistakes from history, and all around make better long-term decisions? Why is that even offensive to anyone? Just because of someone's perso…

This is true, statistically. But on the level of one person you can't make such predicaments. Software developer or rocket engineer with all their complex knowledge sometimes isn't more successful (and happy) in life than some smart businessman. Knowledge is just a part of whole thing (to be ideal ruler of the USA). May be it is 1/5.

So why people make so much hype about this 20%? Because they don't have much perspective and freedom in their mind to understand that. They just have very simple filters and Trump's lack of knowledge hits them. And now they can condescend to him and feel good.

But what about other 80%?

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by readhn »

Clubber wrote: post #128
mudil wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FDA thing is really really scary if you are sick. This situation is clearly illustrated in the movie Dallas Buyer's Club.

Yes, that's also the primary reason EpiPen can charge so much for their device. Their competitors' products were blocked / backlogged by the FDA. http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/09/01/49223579...

Well.....Theranos case tells us something else..THANK GOD FOR THE FDA!

Its not that easy :)

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by dr_ »

"... The business rate will be lowered from 35% to 15%, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10% rate."

15% seems like a lofty goal, even 25% would be drastic. Unless a corporation can be confident that there will be significant growth in the economy, they are likely to hoard the savings than reinvest them.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by finiter »

derekdahmer wrote: post #501
toomuchtodo wrote: post #281

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Put out of work coal miners on social security early at their full benefit and fund it with a carbon tax. This doesn't even need to be a carbon tax; simply a transfer from the general fund. The average coal miner salary is ~$22/hr, or ~$42k/year. 174,000 coal workers in the US @ $31,668k/year (the max SS benefit permitted) = $5.5 billion/year. This is not expensive, nor in perpetuity, only the years from now until th…

This attitude is why democrats have so much trouble understanding why republicans have so much support from working class voters. People don't want to go on welfare, they want a job. It's about identity. Free money can keep you fed but it can't give you a sense of pride and self worth.

>People don't want to go on welfare, they want a job.

People LOVE welfare as long as you don't call it welfare or give it to someone else. It's those other people that don't deserve it.

Re: Donald Trump’s Contract with the American Voter [pdf]

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Post by deadringerr »

nartsbtaa wrote: post #88
knowaveragejoe wrote: post #43

Some of this sounds great - term limits on congress, a measure to reduce the revolving door effect of government officials going into lobbying. Some of it sounds ridiculous - for every new federal regulation, 2 existing regulations must be eliminated. How is that considered feasible by any rational person? It might sound great if you don't think too hard about it. The scariest things for me are the backing out of cli…

We should just throw out any regulations that don't spark joy.

Okay, this was the first time I laughed today. Thank you.
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