Ive gave it a lot of thought, and what's happening is like what's happening with 4K streaming. It's not really 4K but no one cares. People don't have trained eyes and exaggerate their technical literacy. I also think that anti-intellectualism nullifies the benefits of the most intelligent AI models America has. No one knows the difference and they don't care.
Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
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Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#732context: working in tech consulting with non-tech industry partners.
outside of coding scenarios, anthropic is just not quite the best choice for regular folks.
depending on the cloud/office stack used by the company, the userbase is better poised to use the native ai offering than moving to anthropic and connecting everything with them. same goes for third party guys trying to tie it all together.
not to discount them or their features, but beyond small companies or startups, we don't see the same levels of adoptions now nor maybe in the near future.
those asking us to build genai solutions for them also do not choose anthropic first over the main model offered by their current CSP. anthropic made itself available across the board finally, but it was already too late for most projects planned out for the upcoming quarters. also, we don't use the absolute biggest model nor instantly migrate to the latest one. the insane price jumps do not help with the same. especially when we quote something that may no longer be true down the line.
aside: good luck to the FDE folks hired by the frontier labs. i wonder if they would really get to handle large company-wide projects in practice.
Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#733Earlier quoted context omitted.
How many big tech companies let you talk to a human to get support. Automation is wonderful to cut cost for them but for the users being unable to get support is a horrible experience. But you cannot go elsewhere because they are the only player in town. How can small companies with 1000x less money able to provide live support, but if you pay 20, 100, 200 dollars for a subscription you dont have a phone number to ca…
Part of it is scale. If you have a small number of clients/users it is possible to provide that support. If you have millions or billions of users then you can't scale the support to handle the support requests, so some form of automation becomes inevitable.
All of it is greed. 100%.
If you could be profitable with 50 customers providing excellent support, you can be MORE profitable spreading that excellent support across a larger customer base.
Just because none of the big corpos choose to do this does not mean it isn't possible. It's JUST greed.
Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#734Where Anthropic f'ed up was treating their monetization the way they treat model training. Turns out that success in experimentation is not transferrable. They have tried to find the highest that the market pays for sota models; however, on the consumer side, this is just too confusing and unsettling: "You can only use Fable for a week as a part of your plan" "Be ready! You have to start paying per token!" "Nevermind…
The problem isn't the confusion from pricing and ToS changes, but the constant feeling they don't give a fuck about their customers, and they'll fuck them up with lock-in tactics and high prices at any chance they get.
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Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#735Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got the AI ultra plan for gemini, the models are lower quality than claude and codex for sure but it comes with a pretty high limit for my purposes and I haven’t reached the weekly limit yet after about 3 weeks of usage. I have enterprise claude at work, the budget isn’t particularly great and I keep running out within a week tops with any serious work. Not even considering it for a personal plan with how quickly t…
I've got the AI pro plan for Gemini and the limits as absolutely abysmal when using 3.7 flash in antigravity, If I use swarms then I can't even finish a single prompt without it reaching the limit.
It's not abysmal. It's generous, compared to other $20/mo plans (besides Cursor) - especially when you count the storage, etc., that they give.
Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#736This isn't the reason I'm considering leaving Anthropic. I don't think I can tolerate its writing style anymore. Reading Claude output is starting to cause actual psychological harm. I have tried many ways to get it to stop writing in its stupid punchy linked-in marketing-team voice, and I can't. Is there a model out there that sounds sound this awful? It's like rubbing sand into the folds of my brain.
Just tell it to exclusively write briefly and in ASD-STE100.
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#737Earlier quoted context omitted.
Qwen 3.8 is excellent. With the right harness, it does about 95% of what Opus can do, in my case automation software development. Since 3.8 came out, I have significantly revised my expectations for a local model. Give it another year or two, and we'll be running fast and free local models for nearly everything that matters, and these costly subscriptions will be a thing of the past. I've always believed that AI shou…
What harness would you recommend? I’ve tried Pi but the model struggled to stay on track after the compaction. I have only 48gb of ram, so can fit only 80k context max, so good compaction is must.
I am running it on 32GB and I did not saw model loosing it context even after 4-5 compactions in pi. I am running sessions for few days sometimes. I think it looped once, but loop police extension stopped it. The only problem I have know is how pi compaction works, which is forcing full prefill which takes time and it is erroring a lot. I wrote my own compaction that should remove full prefil but it does not work. But this is the only problem with this setup and it is more problem with pi then the model. I much more prefer it to use Qwen then paid models: Claude forces me to do reauth every other day and codex models either are too costly or not capable enough.
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#738Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's kind of funny you describe it that way. I'm literally doing the exact opposite, which is why I have both. I have Sol xhigh drive Claude via tmux and I get amazing results until I run out of Fable. Then Opus comes in and starts acting like some sort of autistic academic with OCD. It tries as hard as Fable, but isn't smart enough to do it well. It starts designing ever more elaborate tests, frameworks, and procedu…
'Loops' are the hackiest thing ever invented I don't think they're good for anything. I think a researched plan is much better, the agent will follow the plan. You can allow for an 'iterative' strategy for solving a problem, with guardrails so that it doesn't try to many times. Yes - you can use Codex as the 'manager AI' but I don't see much benefit - it has a much shorter context window. Codex is better 'at the fron…
Did you see Nvidia's 100% on ARC AGI-3 yesterday? OVA was just Opus 5 in a loop.
They can definitely be powerful.
Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#739Non-LLM user here. Why? Apart from the ecological issues, I'm very uncomfortable giving my organisation's crown jewels to {random_internet__corp}. Look at the lengths they go to for training data - 10M for Spirit's call logs? Destroying millions of obscure books to scan them? They make meth-heads look scrupulous. Your prompts, especially if they contain your entire codebase, are _way_ more data-rich than an airline p…
That's when you do the Enterprise deal. I have first hand knowledge of household name companies with billion euro IP who use OpenAI and Athropic products quite liberally. They have WAY more lawyers than I do and their sole job is to keep the IP safe. They wouldn't sign a deal with even a slightest whiff of the IP being used to train anything. And if it happens, the penalty for breach of contract would have so many ze…
Used for training is one thing. Exposed to prying eyes is still unstoppable.
Re: Anthropic's best AI model struggles to attract users as cheaper tools thrive
#740Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Although the LLM providers state that they will not use your data for training when you sign an enterprise deal It can be very hard to prove in court that your data was used for training
Not really, that’s what discovery is for. You just ask Anthropic and OpenAI to hand over every internal document and message that contains your companies name, or matches any reasonable query about where training data comes from. It very hard for a company to do anything without leaving some kind of paper trail behind that can be discovered in court. Not without crippling their own operations by simply refusing to di…
Fair point!