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Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by UqWBcuFx6NV4r »

Ritewut wrote: post #69

Everyone in this industry should be required to read Careless People by Sara Wynn-Williams about her tenure at Facebook. Not because the book is about how evil Meta/Facebook is as a company but because you get to see the lengths people go to mentally convince themselves they are the good guy. Repeatedly in the book she tries to assure herself she's making the world better and that there's actually an ethical, positiv…

I got very far into this book, but didn’t finish it, in large part because the author clearly needed to work through her problems a little more before publishing it. The biggest “I’m not ACTUALLY like them” complex ever.

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

ericmay wrote: post #682
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #549

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Sorry, but I just can't agree with your assessment: > Anyone can just say "well so and so is acting like a king or queen". This does not mean that anytime someone says it, it is false. If many folks are saying a thing, there is more evidence of it being true than if "anyone" says it. The consensus here seems to be that the current USA president is acting like a king. To alter the consensus, make a successful argument…

> This does not mean that anytime someone says it, it is false. You're right, it doesn't mean that. But it belittles the accusation. Folks sometimes refer to their children as little tyrants. Conservatives would say Obama or Biden were acting like kings issuing edicts. If you want to argue about this because you're interested in the mudslinging, that's fine but that's a separate discussion: a discussion about reality…

>> This does not mean that anytime someone says it, it is false.

> You're right, it doesn't mean that. But it belittles the accusation.

Does it? I don't think so. Like we should refrain from ever saying it when it is appropriate, because there will always exist at least 1 person in the world who disagrees and thus the accusation is belittled in their eyes alone? Pass.

> Conservatives would say Obama or Biden were acting like kings issuing edicts.

Sure, and they can say whatever they want! It's not like people would agree with them if they said it, unlike in this example, in which they would.

> Current consensus is usually wrong

This nonsense sounds like a slogan of somebody who is usually both wrong and against consensus.

> yet he's still constrained by the rule of law and the Congress, and the Court

Yep, totally irrelevant, as we've already covered: someone being theoretically "constrained by the rule of law and the Congress, and the Court" does not mean "cannot act like a king", as we've now seen.

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Post by ZunarJ5 »

hackable_sand wrote: post #474
therobots927 wrote: post #196

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All three of these suggestions are likely true. I’ve never done Ketamine but I’ve heard it can seriously degrade the user’s “quality control” of their ideas, meaning that ideas that they have, or ideas they get from others, that are intellectually subpar appear to be quite brilliant. The dissociation is also helpful for overcoming moral qualms if they were ever present. Combine that with speed and a insular SV cultur…

I feel sorry for them because some of them will never wake up to experience life And that's deeply sad to me

Most of this tech oligarch group seems pathetic in this way. It's tragic, yes, but they're making their own bed.

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by ZunarJ5 »

eudamoniac wrote: post #706
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #693

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"21. Some cultures have produced vital advances; others remain dysfunctional and regressive. All cultures are now equal. Criticism and value judgments are forbidden. Yet this new dogma glosses over the fact that certain cultures and indeed subcultures . . . have produced wonders. Others have proven middling, and worse, regressive and harmful." This is incredibly racist, ending thinking at "well, some types of people…

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Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by lazyasciiart »

UltraSane wrote: post #402
lazyasciiart wrote: post #286

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Yes. Netanyahu has pretended to justify destroying civilians in Gaza by saying the US did it first in Dresden.

I don't care what Netanyahu says. Why do you?

Because in this instance he’s correct.

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Post by [deleted] »

aziaziazi wrote: post #645
alterom wrote: post #634

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>The comparaison of chicken and tomatoes is a strawman. It's a direct answer to the question asked by the parent. The answer is: no, vegetables are not cheaper than meat in the US. It is perverse. Which is my point: what enables the low, low price of chicken isn't merely the laws of supply and demand. >First off: people don’t swap them in their diet, a better exemple would be wheat or soy Those are not vegetables . T…

Ah I might be confused by my low english skills but it seems grains and legumes are vegetable. I was curious and a quick search returned several sources confirming that however I'd be pleased to learn other usages. > a plant or part of a plant that is eaten as food. Potatoes, beans and onions are all vegetables. https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis... I'm don't want to argue on definitions tho…

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Post by carlosjobim »

UltraSane wrote: post #700
antiframe wrote: post #692

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Including the bombing of civilians, for effect. Got it.

Please provide a detailed plan of how the US should have fought in WW2

The allies won the war by conducting terrorism of the largest level in human history. That might have been the only way for them to win. I don't think anybody here is a better general than Eisenhower or McArthur was, to be able to suggest a better way.

All sides of WWII were conducting outright terror attacks on the civilians of their enemies, with the allied terror bombings of German cities and terror nuclear bombings of Japanese cities being the most devastating of these.

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by micromacrofoot »

elAhmo wrote: post #713
micromacrofoot wrote: post #321

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the current administration is using the war name, it doesn't matter what it technically is because they are using it to plainly state their ambitions for it

They are calling Gulf of Mexico with a wrong name either, that doesn't mean they are right.

this isn't a discussion about wrong vs right

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by DangitBobby »

kelipso wrote: post #728
DangitBobby wrote: post #667

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Yes he is. "Nothing more natural than one animal eating another" is might makes right. It's also an appeal to nature, but in this case it's both.

Weaker animals can eat stronger animals. Pack animals, carrion feeders, bugs, animals feeding their offspring, etc. So almost entirely an appeal to nature argument.

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.
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