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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

lucb1e wrote: post #489
astura wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to have a minimum amount of karma here to get a down vote button. I think it's 500.

Correct. And to add: it only applies to comments; non-moderators cannot downvote stories

You can flag, but a lone flag is worthless. Not sure how many it takes to nuke a story or comment.

For myself, I only downvote/flag stuff that I consider harmful to the community.

That does not include stories or comments with which I disagree. In fact, I frequently upvote comments posted, that attack my own positions, if they do so in a reasonable manner. Groupthink sucks, and I frequently change my mind, based on orthogonal feedback.

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Oras wrote: post #723
hereme888 wrote: post #689

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Really?! Startpage, DDG, Brave, Ublock, NextDNS, Proton, Mulvad, and all those similar companies and OSS exist literally because people were infuriated at the Big Tech bait-and-switch tactics.

People who use these services most likely don’t use ChatGPT

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Post by hereme888 »

Oras wrote: post #723
hereme888 wrote: post #689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really?! Startpage, DDG, Brave, Ublock, NextDNS, Proton, Mulvad, and all those similar companies and OSS exist literally because people were infuriated at the Big Tech bait-and-switch tactics.

People who use these services most likely don’t use ChatGPT

Why? Did I miss something? There's no indication that OpenAI has been collecting personal information about me (other than typical name, payment info, email) for reasons other than the actual service.

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Post by LastTrain »

senordevnyc wrote: post #704
LastTrain wrote: post #679

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What polls are you referring to? We did a non-anonymous poll at work which went something like “has using AI tool X made you more productive”, and the results were something like 50/50. If you asked my thanksgiving holiday crowd something like that you might get mixed results. If you asked them is AI an agent of good, do you trust what is happening with AI it would all be negative. People don’t like it.

Just one example: https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2025/09/17/how-americans... Again, more pessimistic than not, but hardly universal hatred

That is not anywhere near 50/50 and is your leading example. A charitable summary of the survey is, when pressed, in some areas, people can think of some potential benefits. Why are you skeptical a group of 15 people would all dislike AI? People’s perceptions are based on how it is being employed in the current moment, and they don’t like it, and don’t trust it, which is the attitude included in the /first/ bullet item of the survey you linked: “ Americans are much more concerned than excited about the increased use of AI in daily life, with a majority saying they want more control over how AI is used in their lives.”

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Post by delaminator »

nebula8804 wrote: post #639
delaminator wrote: post #612

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Perplexity sponsors Lewis Hamilton, with a prime spot on his helmet so every on board shot has their logo. https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/blog/perplexity-x-lewis-hamilt... Here it is in action https://youtube.com/shorts/1SqQV5iD__s

How can we even measure whether this has any effect on people? This seems like a lousy way to get the word out.

Other F1 sponsors - Gemini on McLaren along with FxPro and Android, Kick on Sauber, Crypto.com on trackside hoardings, Atlassian on the Williams, 1Password on the RedBull

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Post by everdev »

aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

They spend $3 for every $1 they make, so they're just living off of investors and government contracts at this point. Their revenue is basically a moot point.

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Post by jstummbillig »

b112 wrote: post #686
jstummbillig wrote: post #590

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That would be illegal. I understand that there are a lot of strong opinions and open questions about OpenAI behavior – the amount of vigilantism is quite staggering – but if what they do is found to be clearly illegal by courts around the world, they will have to pay very hefty fines. Disguising ads is one such move. That's just not a winning business.

I don't know of any legal rulings or laws, which say not disclosing an embedded ad is illegal. In fact quite the opposite. There are loads and loads of prior such cases, movies, TV shows being an example. For example every product mention (snapple, oh henry candy bars, jr mints) on Seinfeld was an ad. The skit is written, but any product can be dropped in. If no advertisers are interested, made up names are used. Thi…

US and EU law already cover this: undisclosed paid promotion that looks like neutral content is generally illegal (FTC Act + Endorsement Guides in the US, UCPD + DSA in the EU). Product placement in old TV/film is the historical exception, not the rule. An interactive "assistant" secretly steering you because someone paid for it is legally much closer to a deceptive influencer ad than to a Snapple bottle in Seinfeld.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

ragazzina wrote: post #600

All of these "farewell ChatGPT then!" and "they have no moat anyway" comments here are very strange. Does anyway even remember when Google used to not have ads? The introduction of ads was seen as crazy, yet nobody stopped using Google. People who say there's no moat should spend 5 minutes on social media. A big meme going around is "sure, show my wife or even the general public my most personal and intimate chats an…

> The introduction of ads was seen as crazy, yet nobody stopped using Google.

Where is this revisionist history coming from? The introduction of ads to Google was not seen as "crazy", in fact it was basically seen as inevitable. And when Google did introduce ads, they were generally praised because ads were highlighted and clearly separated in a different color (yellow) at the top and right rail. Of course, that slowly eroded until ads were nearly indistinguishable from organic results and took up the entire first page, but when they launched I don't remember anyone being surprised that Google added ads.

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