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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by arunc »

beej71 wrote: post #656
arunc wrote: post #653

Very sad to see this. Most educated Iranians I've met hate Islam and their government that supports its extreme ideologies. I hope the people in this world develop the sense of morality without associating it with any religion or culture, for that's the true purpose of being compassionate humans.

Indeed, all of the Muslims I've met hate extremist, violent ideologies.

The last time I came across the name Beej, there used to be a book/article called Beej's guide for network socket programming. If that's you, thanks for everything!

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by [deleted] »

yawpitch wrote: post #144
adastra22 wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three points on that. First, in this context the popular image, not reality, is what actually matters. Why do people not risk breaking sanctions? Because they don't want to risk prison. Why do Americans fear prison so much? Because of how it is represented in popular media, true or not. Second, sexual violence in American prisons is a very real concern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_Stat...…

> Why do Americans fear prison so much? Because of how it is represented in popular media, true or not. Yes, it’s an ouroboros of confirmation bias: the popular media ad nauseum repeats the trope that what they need to fear in prison is ”gay” sexual violence, when what they really need to fear is the violence of the state and its economic interests that threatens to put them there in the first place. > Second, sexual…

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by kelnos »

adastra22 wrote: post #58
notjosh wrote: post #47

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your comment is helpful context, especially as a foreigner. but would you be able to edit the "pounding in the ass" phrase out in future when referring to prison? thank you <3

Your comment is understandable as a foreigner! Look up our federal prison system sometime. The description is apt. You either kill someone, or become someone's bitch on the first day, then you'll be alright. (It's an Office Space reference, btw, but our prisons are genuinely inhumane and not rehabilitative.)

I think the point here is that the Office Space reference is a joke about rape, which maybe was somewhat acceptable in 1999, but is not cool today.

And even then, it was only acceptable in 1999 because it was a joke about male-male homosexual rape (I doubt it would have been considered funny even back then if it was a joke about a man raping a woman), so on top of being a rape joke, it has some homophobic qualities to it.

(I do remember watching Office Space back in 1999 and finding that line hilarious, but that teenage version of me also thought saying "that's so gay" was a perfectly fine way to be negative about something. Times change, and people grow up and realize that some of the things they thought were funny were actually singling out marginalized groups in shitty ways.)

I think also your use of the phrase didn't really add anything to what you said. Certainly people in the in-group who both know that Office Space reference, and still think it's funny will get it and chuckle, but everyone else will just think it's a weird and/or offensive way to describe it. And leaving it out entirely doesn't water down what you said. If you still feel like you need to emphasize that it's gonna be a maximum-security prison rather than Club Fed, you can just say "maximum-security federal prison", and everyone will understand.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by wojciii »

orbital-decay wrote: post #172
wojciii wrote: post #138

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Ukrainian sanctions work. Ask a russian about the price of fuel. The European sanctions are more of a joke. I you want to Ukraine to win donate to them directly instead of waiting for the cowardly politicians to get their act together.

Answering that specific question, 98 jumped up 16% this spring and... that's it. Except for that, it's an ordinary curve compared to, say, 5 years ago. And that's mostly the result of actually bombing the refineries.

I meant sanctions which are bombing russian refineries.

So they stories no fuel in Russia are just propaganda?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by baggachipz »

marcosdumay wrote: post #677
baggachipz wrote: post #516

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Not just un-built, but poisoned for generations.

It's very rare that international relations get poisoned for generations without some ongoing work from both involved parties. Populations tend to forget things on the timeline of a decade or so. The US can rebuild most of what they destroyed. It's gone now, and some of it they were already on the process of losing and can't get back. But no country is beyond reconstruction.

The Cold War would like to have a word with you. Yes, we gave them a McDonald's in the 90's, but things have only gotten worse over time.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by YC984983427 »

kelnos wrote: post #358
chabska wrote: post #221

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> Nobody should be expected to take that risk I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. Their authoritarian militaristic government that doesn't care for human rights…

> I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries... "You all" is a weird way of putting it. I don't support my government levying sanctions on these countries, but I have zero power to change it. It's funny, as the gist author points out that he doesn't support the actions of the Islamic Republic, and has no power to change i…

> but I have zero power to change it.

Well, it sounds like you should rise up against your government in violent revolution, then! After all, that's what's expected of Iranian, Cuban and Venezuelan people when the West destroys their countries with sanctions. Get to it!

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by kelnos »

toolis wrote: post #169
slg wrote: post #64

>Iranian IPs are blocked here, due to your decision to arm Russia with drones so that they can indiscriminately massacre civilians. The "your decision" in that response is really off-putting. I know the law is what it is with sanctions like this. However, it is a failing of basic human empathy to blame other common citizens of a country for the actions of their government while we almost certainly do not endorse all…

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Why are you assuming that any particular person is ok with what their government is doing? Feeling powerless to change what their government is doing is not the same is endorsement.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by YC984983427 »

tgma wrote: post #699
padjo wrote: post #525

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Obama acknowledging that the US overthrew an Iranian democracy for the benefit of oil companies definitely helped and could have ushered in a new era of understanding. Sadly, America then decided to elect someone with a toddler’s understanding of history and geopolitics which destroyed all that opportunity for a generation.

If you are referring to the Mosadegh story, that “apology” started with Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright trying to appease the current regime in Iran. Sadly, the “apology” itself is meddling with the historical facts. The Mosadegh government was no more or no less democratic than any other Prime Minister in that era. He had prorogued the parliament and waged a war against the Constitution and tried to elevate himse…

Proroguing in parliaments is nothing new or anti-democratic. Canada had its parliament prorogued for the first 4 months of this year yet I didn't see calls for violent US-backed regime change and political suppression like there was under the American puppet Shah. Same with deposing a monarch (getting rid of monarchy is "anti-democratic" now?).

More information on the "Iranian golden age of prosperity" you mentioned:

>During that time two monarchs — Reza Shah Pahlavi and his son Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi — employed secret police, torture, and executions to stifle political dissent. The Pahlavi dynasty has sometimes been described as a "royal dictatorship",[1] or "one-man rule".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Imperial_S...

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by uncleJoe »

What astonishes me is the ease of judgement - who is good and who is not. Everyone is absolutely sure that country A is a doing a RIGHT (tm) thing, while the country B is absolute evil. You have no idea about real reasons, real facts and real feelings except those you've seen on tv or heard from your own bubble. You are so smart, honest and independent that it smells. "Of course YOU have to ... and ... and ... I know better than you guys. Why you are so stupid and don't end this?" It is so easy to rule other countries and tell them what they have to do, totally ignoring real problems that lead to situation. It is so easy to be right, to judge and to discuss things you have no fucking clue. And every person that is saying something contradictory to your opinion is a stupid guy that is brainwashed. They are all brainwashed! Their brain is destroyed by propaganda! Poor, stupid people! We need to bring some democracy to them. Probably. If they do not have some nukes or it would be too expensive. Anyway, thank you for reading.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by kelnos »

toolis wrote: post #213
47282847 wrote: post #197

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And why do you feel capable to judge if somebody is OK with what their government is doing or not? It’s really that simple: you cannot, unless they explicitly state it.

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> if your government is still in power, you as a colective are fine with whatever they are doing

"You as a collective" is not a thing, though. We are not Borg; we are individuals. I live in the US, and I am absolutely not fine with what Trump and the GOP are doing, but... well, they are still in power. And I do have some (albeit fairly minimal) ability to affect the actions of my government through voting.

Someone who lives under a dictatorship like Iran has zero say in what their government does, and zero say in what government is in power. The only way for someone like that to change their government is to engage in armed rebellion, but asking someone to put their life on the line like that is way more than I would presume to ask of anyone.

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