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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by intended »

bko wrote: post #690
labster wrote: post #679

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It doesn’t actually matter if the foreign students are better or not: by having a mixed student body, with lots of cultures and backgrounds, students learn more from each other. They learn skills to work with other cultures, and ways of doing things that may be better. Of course, in America’s future of autarky and Shogunate-style isolationism, those skills will no longer have any value, even to the elite. There’s no…

I don't know. A lot of foreign students from Harvard are Chinese. Seems kind of weird that they were found to discriminate against American Asians and then they import foreign Asian students. Goes against the whole we want diversity thing, no?

That sentence is breath taking.

> A lot of foreign students from Harvard are Chinese. Seems kind of weird that they were found to discriminate against American Asians and then they import foreign Asian students.

How do I put this delicately - the Race part is not what is bringing the difference in lived experience.

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judah wrote: post #598
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On the contrary, the issue is that Harvard allowed pro-Hamas students to attack and persecute Jewish students. Harvard failed to protect the Jewish students, even rewarded those students who intimidated Jewish students on campus. Pro-Hamas students barged into classrooms with bullhorns. Camped out on campus and prevented Jewish students from reaching their classrooms, forming lines and locking hands outside of classr…

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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andrekandre wrote: post #729
kristopolous wrote: post #657

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They don't have lower standards either. I mean they will now with a candidate pool reduction of 96%... The rest is kinda wild. I guess Ilya Sutskever should leave? Sergey Brin would have never started Google, Jony Ive would be in the UK, Jensen Huang and Nvidia would be hailing from Taipei, Elon Musk would be in Johannesburg, Linus Torvalds would still be in Finland, the Rasmussen brothers would have launched Google…

> You're beheading like 50% of the S&P my friend... just a guess but i'd assume these decisions are being made on an emotional/ideological basis, not long term viability, but maybe i'm missing something obvious...

Everyone's decisions are fundamentally ideological. Some ideologies are just more coherent

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Post by platevoltage »

IAmBroom wrote: post #209
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It doesn’t matter, the damage is done. If you’re an international student, are you going to risk an El Salvador gulag?

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If people are being deported without a hearing, it literally doesn't matter. You or I can be deported if we don't get a chance to prove our status.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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spacemadness wrote: post #688
neumann wrote: post #546

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They (the current administration) doesn't want to be competitive. They want to be in full control and willing to destroy any institution, organization or person that opposes them, internal or external.

Can we say "fascism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

Luckily Jon Stewart finally came to his senses.

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Post by staticautomatic »

QuarterReptile wrote: post #707
jaybrendansmith wrote: post #691

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Penn should support Harvard and publicly revoke Trump's degree. Bullies only understand force.

What force does that possibly employ? When you revoke the degree of a sitting president, that costs him...?

It costs him the only thing he cares about: his ego

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Post by platevoltage »

j_timberlake wrote: post #686

Academia let itself get too political these last 10 years and deserved some kind of reckoning for it, yet somehow this manages to be so shameless that it makes academia look like the good guys standing up to an oppressive regime. Which means Harvard leadership actually has more reputation to gain by fighting this than by backing down, very similar to all those tariffed countries.

So academia being political was a bad thing, but now it's a good thing. How does that make any sense?

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Post by gtirloni »

ceejayoz wrote: post #65
kristjansson wrote: post #60

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I believe they've taken a different tactic here - attacking Harvard's ability to enroll international students, not the students' status directly.

The article states "existing foreign students must transfer or lose their legal status"; this injunction would appear to pause that.

ICE begs to differ.

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

spacemadness wrote: post #688
neumann wrote: post #546

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They (the current administration) doesn't want to be competitive. They want to be in full control and willing to destroy any institution, organization or person that opposes them, internal or external.

Can we say "fascism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

I tolerate my normie family saying it, but it grates on me because of how many of the constituencies have switched sides by now. For instance, educated professionals were a major base for the original Nazi Party, while nowadays the fascists seem to really loathe that class stratum.
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