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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Layoffs are one thing, but to be cut off without any notice, that really sucks. I usually know months in advance that when I'll leave, so I'll have time to finish what I'm working on and train the people who will take over my responsibilities. It seems weirdly destructive for a company not to allow for that. As for email, calendar etc, I think the lesson here is not to depend on anything from your employer. Keep ever…

Are you outside the US by chance? Sudden layoffs like this are the norm here.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#732

ISTM software engineers have been living in a privileged and elite world. They are then utterly shocked to be treated like employees are treated elsewhere. Pretty much anywhere if you are let go, your email access and physical access are cut off immediately. Start-ups do this all the time as funding gets tight or there is a need to pivot. I get that this sucks (and have been on the both the dishing out side of this a…

> ISTM software engineers

Probably not the International Society of Travel Medicine, what's the abbreviation?

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#733

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about European taxes? I', paying 48% + there is 21% VAT on almost everything. Plus taxes for water (taxes, not pay-per-used-m3, and this payment is here too), energy (atop of market energy prices), roads, gasoline, etc.

Slightly tangential question for you- does 48% taxes include healthcare? How about pension? It’s tax week in the US, I think my rate was 22% overall. But another 10% of compensation is health insurance. Another 15% is retirement savings. My municipal water bill last quarter mostly was not for actual water usage (about 40% was for water) rest is system charge and storm water fees. Regarding the VAT thing… we may be ef…

German here. Me and my employer pay 12 (together) for healthcare. I have no clue where the idea of „free“ healthcare came from, but it’s far from free. 20% of your wages is the general rule for healthcare here.

On paper, my employer pays me 72k per year. I net 36k of this after taxes and social insurances are paid.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#734

> I really was just a fuckin cog in a mega corp. Love sudden realization. I wonder how many people within companies think “well, they are a cog, but I’m certainly not” just to be left on a road soon after.

the post oozes narcissism. and he even seems to think he contributed to the health of the internet by working at chrome.

Yes I thought that when reading it, if so he may have been a difficult character to work with and that's one of reasons the crosshairs stopped at him.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#735

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think that’s shady? When I was hiring contractors it was always project based with mutual understanding things could end quickly if the project or collaboration didn’t work out. Yes, they get paid 1.5-2x, and that also prices in that it’s not always 100% utilization. Only once had a contractor oppose that, but that was in the context of (severe) underperformance.

In his case, the contract had something different, and they did not pay the actual invoice - that's the shady part. With contractors, you have more freedom of choice when you write the contracts, but whatever contract you agree on, you still have to honor the contract as agreed.

Oh my bad, I thought you referenced contractors in general. In that case I agree: agreements are to be honored.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#736

Can barely read this post because scrolling feels so sluggish and weird on a Chrome-based browser on a Pixel 9 Pro. Hope the playful effects are worth it for the author.

it's probably the commenting section at the bottom (which also took forever to load in)

True, that's probably it.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#737

That was painful to read. I had a very similar experience at Google about a year ago, and the worst part of it was that they did it 2 weeks before I was set to receive a 6-figure retention bonus for sticking around for 2 years after an acquisition. Several other members of my team got the boot at the same time. All of us had come in via that acquisition and were set to receive that bonus, and because of the layoffs,…

It might be too late now, but I've successfully negotiated (before signing) retention deals like this to be pro-rated in the event of non-voluntary termination. It's perfectly reasonable for exactly this reason, and companies have no legitimate reason to deny it.

Agreed, this is/should always be the deal basically - "here's a bonus so you stay while we transition" is the only reason many folks stay post aquisition. It should not be revokable, especially last minute.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#738
A company with $350B in annual Revenue, $200B in Gross Profit, $100B in Cash in the bank lays off a few hundred people making a few hundred thousand dollars a year each, the savings amount to rounding errors. It's hard to understand what these Tech companies are trying to accomplish with the never ending rolling layoffs other than to engender fear in the workforce. It's like all that Great Resignation and Quiet Quitting stuff a few years back broke the collective brains of the C-Suite and they decided they just cannot tolerate labor having any sort of bargaining power at all and needed to mete out punishment to put workers back in their place.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#739

Earlier quoted context omitted.

low eu salaries implies finding job is hard. fact.

There's a higher monthly salary in the US, sure. However, you're expected to work very long hours (60-80 hours per week) and get basically no time off In my current position I'm hired for an expected 37 hours per week. This can be more if I'm asked to work overtime, but my weekly hours cannot exceed 45 hours per week on average in a 3 month window without additional compensation Additionally I have six weeks of paid…

I worked 80 hours a week in medical school, depending on the rotation. From that experience I can tell you, the majority of people that say they work 80 hours a week, don't even know what that looks like.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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post #732

ISTM software engineers have been living in a privileged and elite world. They are then utterly shocked to be treated like employees are treated elsewhere. Pretty much anywhere if you are let go, your email access and physical access are cut off immediately. Start-ups do this all the time as funding gets tight or there is a need to pivot. I get that this sucks (and have been on the both the dishing out side of this a…

> ISTM software engineers Probably not the International Society of Travel Medicine, what's the abbreviation?

Internet Technology and Social Media, I would guess.
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