BlueSky can be brutal! I wonder how it got a reputation of being the kinder, gentler alternative?
Adobe isn’t a person.
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#732Yeah, they posted this: > Hey, we're Adobe! We're here to connect with the artists, designers, and storytellers who bring ideas to life. What's fueling your creativity right now? > Drop a reply, tag a creator, or share your latest work—we'd love to see what inspires you! That's such a bland, corporate message. It feels totally inauthentic. Do Adobe (a corporation) really "love to see what inspires you" or do they jus…
The left has spent the last decade proudly bullying everyone for wrongthink, including going after employment and family members. It should come as no surprise then that corporations wouldn’t participate above the bare minimum on a predominantly leftist forum.
I feel like you are misrepresenting things (intentionally or not).
I've heard this narrative from really dishonest people, but I don't know you so can't judge. Maybe it's just a coincidence and you really think that.
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Platforms which drive away normal users with unwarranted hate become increasingly concentrated with toxic people over time. If bluesky don’t find a way to escape this spiral of driving away normal people and attracting toxic people it’s going to become a sort of left-wing 4chan.
Oh no! Imagine if all the corporate advertisers left our social media platform! That would be like Hacker News but without all the shills using it. Practically unrecognizable, all the "normal people" would be gone.
Truly an awful thought.
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#734As a lurker on both Bluesky and Twitter, I find Bluesky is a much more hostile place. Twitter is much more absurd but there is not as much anger.
Maybe it shouldn't have been surprising after Democrats removed abolishing the death penalty from their party platform, but all the Mangione stuff on bluesky was pretty sad to see.
Mario Bros. did nothing wrong
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> more diverse, less cancel culture I love when people use this to mean "more white and conservative." Bluesky users lean toward hating corporate greed. Adobe is greedy as fuck. Simple as. They and companies like them can stay off.
Are you claiming cancel culture isn't real?
There is a pretty long list of deranged shitheads who still haven't faced any consequences for their actions (I mean physical actions, not "mean words on the internet"). Celebrities and pseudo-celebrities, stuff like that. I will be the first one to say cancel culture is real when they do face consequences, but currently it's like water off duck's back.
What's more interesting: they are not even billionnaires.
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Historically, it took a long time for traditional artists (painters and sculptors) to see photographers as fellow artists rather than mere technicians using technology to replace art. The same thing was true of early digital artists who dared to make images without paint or pencils.
Not the same thing again. That comparison would be fair if the generative AI you use is trained exclusively on your own (rightfully acquired) data and work. Existing generative AIs are feeding on the work of millions of people who did not consent. That’s a violation of their work and of their rights. And that should also alert those that expect to use/benefit of their own production out of these generators: why would…
> That comparison would be fair if the generative AI you use is trained exclusively on your own (rightfully acquired) data and work.
> Existing generative AIs are feeding on the work of millions of people who did not consent.
There are LLMs that are trained on non-copyright work, but apparently that's irrelevant according to the comment I replied to.
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In the US, a collection on your credit report can tank your FICO score by more than 100 points, affecting your ability to borrow at the best rate, rent a home, or get certain jobs. This would be a very risky move if the purchase was made in such a way that you are personally liable.
I've never heard of someone without your social security number having the ability to do anything to your credit.
This has been my experience as well. I was involved with some payment dispute with the New York Times many years ago. I switched from credit card to Apple Pay and they sent my account to collections. I took no action on this because it was in error and my credit score was 830 before and 830 after. The only thing that's ever had an impact on my credit score was buying a house; went down to 800 after that.
It was an error on their part so take that as you will, but... scary letter != inability to borrow money.
(And just for the record, I no longer subscribe to that rag.)
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Historically, it took a long time for traditional artists (painters and sculptors) to see photographers as fellow artists rather than mere technicians using technology to replace art. The same thing was true of early digital artists who dared to make images without paint or pencils.
Not the same thing again. That comparison would be fair if the generative AI you use is trained exclusively on your own (rightfully acquired) data and work. Existing generative AIs are feeding on the work of millions of people who did not consent. That’s a violation of their work and of their rights. And that should also alert those that expect to use/benefit of their own production out of these generators: why would…
As people have mentioned, people are still against legally-sourced generative AI systems like Adobe's, so concern over IP rights isn't the only, or I suspect, major, objection to generative AI that people have.
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That's why you always use throwaway cards for this.
Of course it's highly unlikely they'll go in court for a single user, but if everyone starts doing this, they'll sue. It doesn't matter the payment failed, you still legally owe Adobe (or any other service) money.
They sell the debts of the users who do this to law firms, which then collect those debts with scary legal letters. Works most of the time. I don’t know if those law firms actually follow with lawsuits when it doesn’t.
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#740I just don't get how Adobe didn't get dethroned after being so unpopular for so long. There are so many Photoshop competitors, many of which are quite good, they seem to be ripe for disruption. The last version I used was CS6, which came out more than a decade ago, and even that had more than a good enough feature set. Blender is slowly taking over 3D, why can't 2D be disrupted similarly?
That is how free market capitalism is supposed to work. If you do not like products you switch to a competitor. That is the fundamental assumption on which the system is built
The end-user relationship with Adobe feels a lot more like a mob protection racket than free market capitalism.