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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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It would be one thing if there was a clear policy and adherence to it. In that case, you could discuss and reason in good faith. However there is no such indication that this decision is based on a considered policy. Trump's supporters would say that this is a result of not wanting the US being involved in foreign conflicts. That is a laudable goal, however that is not what is happening here. From the article > On Fr…

Israel is paying for this weapons by its own money.

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I think they would give peace a chance if there was a chance Russia might withdraw, or if what's left of Ukraine could join NATO.

I dont want to have ww3 for ukraine joining nato.

Im glad tbe adults are in charge.

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That is why Trump is pushing Ukraine to accept capitulation on Russian terms. Like to give Russia two big cities Zaporizhzhia and Kherson they have no control of.

The rare earth deal, or "raw earth" as Trump calls it, seems to actually be with Russia instead of Ukraine. Trump has decided he can spend nothing and eventually drop sanctions and in return, Russia will give the US access to Ukraine's mineral wealth.

Only if Ukraine will stop fighting, which they wouldn't.

Yes, USA is a major donor. Yes, it will be harder without their support. But without it Ukraine will continue fight. Because if they stop - it means the end of Ukraine. Ukrainians will be new soldiers in Russian army, a fresh cannon fodder against European guns .

It is interesting to see Trump's bulling. What if Ukraine will ignore his threats? What a fool trump is now, with his promise to end the war soon? He has no leverage anymore.

Well, he can sell more weapons to his friend putin to help finish the war.

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In slight fairness, I don’t think most of the Russian soldiers are volunteers at this point.

It is not so easy. There are involuntarily drafted people, there are convicts who joined in exchange for a pardon and there are volunteers attracted by huge bonus and salary.

Drafted people and convicts are small part of current Russian occupation forces. Mainly volunteers attracted by money.

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Why is nobody being open about that? Because I suspect the appetite for that is low. Germany is about closer to Russia than we are—how many Germans are willing to go die in Ukraine?

How this works is pretty common knowledge. The world has been using peacekeepers for quite a while. But you know that and you know you are just concern trolling.

The pro-Ukraine people I know have been pitching our support as “just sending them old weapons we don’t use anyway.” Even the risk of U.S. soldiers on the ground would be a massive escalation of our commitment.

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Of course they can defeat Russia, if they’re tenacious enough. Just look at Afghanistan (against both Russia and USA). If the costs ends up being too high, eventually the attacker loses the will to continue the fight. Russia is running out of equipment. What they have left is in an increasingly bad state. Ukraine’s recent strategy of targeting refineries is working fairly well. Ukraine now has domestic laser weapons…

> Ukraine now has domestic laser weapons for taking down Russian drones Source?

https://youtu.be/8huHGfY4xYQ?si=VSbvGTVjb2N-qsGq

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Presumably innocent Russian men are being kidnapped and forced to fight for a dictator just as much. So let’s stop blaming the victim when Russia is clearly the aggressor and started this whole ordeal.

Surprisingly the Russian army is mostly volunteer since the average pay right now is quite high by Russian standards. There are also standard conscripted soldiers as part of the country’s required service. Allegedly the conscripts are kept away from front lines since the death of conscripted young men in Afghanistan was part of the political death knell that led to the fall of the Soviet Union. Unfortunately Ukraine…

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Agreed. Russia can pull out of their invasion literally any time.

They cannot because they have already added 4 new regions into the Constitution. And it doesn't allow removing.

They can always retreat. Like they did from Kherson. Russian constitution is a joke, putin does whatever he want. Like a true friend of Trump.

"Show me your friends, and I'll show you your future." And now Trump calls putin a friend...

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Why do people think it is so far fetched that Trump is a Russian asset given his behavior in his last term (trying to blackmail Zelenskyy on an official call) and his credit problems in the past (no banks would lend to him given his failure to pay back any loan, with the exception of an obscure channel through a German bank)? Perhaps Trump is just in debt to Putin and this is payback, he was intentionally crass to Ze…

It's the only explanation that makes any sense. But it wouldn't be a financial debt more likely some humiliating kompromat. That's Trump's biggest fear. And Putin probably has plenty from Trump's visits there.

I think Trump would happily sell out the United States for a few billion dollars pumped into his memecoin (or whatever).
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