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Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by frosted-flakes »

ARandumGuy wrote: post #307
bogwog wrote: post #124

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> which combines the best of both of those consoles. Minus the dual screen of the Wii U, which was awesome. It'd be cool if the Switch 2's dock could work independently of the console, so that you could have a reverse Wii U- experience with it. The dual screen setup can be a neat gimmick for gameplay, but it's biggest strength is the convenience that comes from having a second screen closer to your face. You can have…

TBH other then a few neat local multiplayer stuff in NintendoLand, there really wasn't much that actually utilized the dual screen in a way that actually enhanced the game. You couldn't quickly swap between the screens like you could on the DS, because the screens were different distances away and required re-focusing your eyes. This meant that most gamepad usages played the same as if you just pressed a button to br…

Zelda Wind Waker made excellent use of the second screen. You could swap tools and scroll the map on the fly without pausing, while continuing to otherwise play normally.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

dasKrokodil wrote: post #473
CitrusFruits wrote: post #372

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People are speculating that you can use the controllers like a computer mouse. You can see an allusion to that towards the end of the video.

Yeah, and this might make first-person shooters and some strategy games play a lot nicer if (big if) it works well. Perhaps the next iteration of Mario Maker might also make use of it.

They had it right with motion controls on the Wii. I could headshot on the Wii edition of Resident Evil 4 so effectively it was cheating.

The Switch also has motion control for fine aiming in some games (Zelda, Borderlands 2). Joysticks for gross movement then motion controls for smaller adjustments. Much better scheme than Xbox or PS.

Strategy games might benefit.

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Post by freetime2 »

I've had a lot of frustration with Switch joy-cons. Not only drift, which has claimed a number of them, but also issues with the console not recognizing when they are attached, and one pair that for some reason the switch won't recognize when trying to use in the horizontal orientation. No doubt my kids have subjected it to hard use and probably a drop or two, but still frustrating.

It looks like they've added some reinforcement to the joysticks, and changed the connection with the main body to be magnetic instead of sliding in and out (which causes wear and tear on the connectors over time). I hope the Switch 2 is more robust than the original Switch.

Some extra horsepower would also be appreciated. Recently we were trying to play Switch Sports with 4 players, and even my kids who are generally oblivious to graphical fidelity and framerate were complaining that it was basically unplayable in 4-player split screen.

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Post by dcrazy »

tshaddox wrote: post #645
nerdjon wrote: post #365

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I would say gameplay and art style instead of what the rest of the industry calls graphics (polygon count basically). Nearly all Nintendo (game freak is not technically Nintendo) games look beautiful thanks to having a great art style instead of just focusing on higher polygon count.

> what the rest of the industry calls graphics (polygon count basically) IMO the focus of cutting edge triple-A graphics is physically based rendering.

“Physically based rendering” does not mean “photorealistic rendering.” After all, PBR was pioneered by Disney for use in their animated films. I would be surprised if Mario Odyssey doesn’t use PBR.

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Post by azeirah »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #58

I don't like the aesthetic as much as the Switch 1. Looks a little too sleek, too monochrome, not Nintendo-y enough. Other than the splash of color around the thumbsticks it looks like any number of those handheld Steam Deck-alikes that have been coming out. That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

I think this is aimed at a slightly older audience than the "regular" switch.

This is more like a switch "pro", and I assume a switch 2 lite and such will follow.

This is like the 3ds XL, which in terms of hardware was a HUUUUGGE upgrade to the 3ds, but they didn't really mention it anywhere.

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

tshaddox wrote: post #664
duxup wrote: post #8

I was pretty skeptical about the original Switch but bought it on a whim after being laid off. It quickly became one of my favorite gaming consoles. The ability to play anywhere didn’t seem like a big deal until I could do it. I have zero interest in being tied to a single spot like the traditional console experience now.

It's fascinating how the Switch can be such a different device for different people. I bought my Switch in 2022 and it has remained exclusively docked under my TV since then. I have yet to even conceive of a scenario in which I would want to play it on the go. Perhaps if I went on long flights more than a couple of times a year? But who am I kidding, I would still read or listen to podcasts on the plane.

Play it in bed.

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Post by dcrazy »

EA-3167 wrote: post #598
FractalHQ wrote: post #542

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The games are crippled by how archaic and underpowered the hardware is. TOTK is beautiful _despite_ the hardware limiting its true potential, robbing world class studios, and forcing them to cut corners. It’s indefensible considering how much legendary IP that potato is holding hostage.

The good news is that the best Nintendo platform is also the best mobile platform: The Steam Deck. It plays Nintendo games better than Nintendo consoles do, and as a bonus, it plays everything else.

This is a statement that could only be made by an HN commenter. My wife has to drop into Arch to recover her audio every time she connects her Steam Deck to the TV. This is not a product ready for mass consumption.

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Post by dcrazy »

tshaddox wrote: post #664
duxup wrote: post #8

I was pretty skeptical about the original Switch but bought it on a whim after being laid off. It quickly became one of my favorite gaming consoles. The ability to play anywhere didn’t seem like a big deal until I could do it. I have zero interest in being tied to a single spot like the traditional console experience now.

It's fascinating how the Switch can be such a different device for different people. I bought my Switch in 2022 and it has remained exclusively docked under my TV since then. I have yet to even conceive of a scenario in which I would want to play it on the go. Perhaps if I went on long flights more than a couple of times a year? But who am I kidding, I would still read or listen to podcasts on the plane.

Airplane is the only time ours comes undocked from the TV.
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