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Trump wins presidency for second time

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by dclowd9901 »

penguin_booze wrote: post #701

I'm not American. I feel sad, not because Ds lost or Rs one. A nation, which happens to wield so much power in the world, has chosen to elect as its president, a deranged, indecent, man, with dictatorial tendencies, who cares for nothing about democratic--or any--institutions, who never believed in peaceful transfer of power, who called for an insurrection. I'd have thought that alone would have been a reason enough…

You now see the exposed heart of our country: folks who have very little, being sold lots by people who will give them very little. A nation of grifters and grifting.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by yencabulator »

cynicalpeace wrote: post #308

Parties basically switched sides this election. From 2008 to now: - Pro war party: Repubs -> Dems - Dick Cheney party: Repubs -> Dems - Elitist party: Repubs -> Dems - Working class party: Dems -> Repubs - Pro free speech party: Dems -> Repubs - Bigger spending party: Dems -> Repubs - Skeptical of large corps: Dems -> Repubs There are some issues where they haven't switched (eg. abortion)

> - Pro free speech party: Dems -> Repub

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/media/trump-strip-tv-station-...

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by tines »

totaldude87 wrote: post #597

For many this ended up with "Have i felt better over the past 4 years" . Imagine coming out of covid, without a recession, only to be hit with inflation (both parties to blame) and sky high interest rates coupled with all other stuff like illegal border crossing to lack of majority support from Women to Harris to Harris being a silent VP for 4 full years and thrown to lime light.

> Have i felt better over the past 4 years

I agree with you that for a lot of people this is what it came down to, which is so sad. Short-term thinking will lead us to destruction.

Instead of asking whether things have improved over the last four years, think about what you want the country and the world to look like in ten, fifty, or a hundred years. And what other countries looked like ten, fifty, a hundred, a thousand years ago. Think about the rises and falls of other nations. Think about the fact that it's getting measurably hotter every year, and that one party doesn't even acknowledge that fact.

Everything is more expensive, and yes, that sucks. But we've handed over the kingdom's keys to an authoritarian idiot who will dismantle the systems that took hundreds of years to establish. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure burned fast.

> Harris being a silent VP for 4 full years and thrown to lime light.

Funny that people constantly talk about how they're not voting for Trump, they're voting for the policies of the party etc. but then they can't apply the same rationale to the other side.

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Post by dang »

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This thread could be worse (ok, it could be a lot worse) but I'm still noticing people breaking the rules. Please follow them instead—it will be a better experience for all of us, including yourself.

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Post by bamboozled »

exabrial wrote: post #636

My analysis is the Democrat party leadership should have conducted a true primary election. She was "gifted" the nomination, vs being selected in the primary. I think the populace responded in turn: This wasn't their candidate. Compare this to the Obama vs Clinton selection, which I actually believe the populace would have supported either. btw: I'm not sure I'd compare this to the 2020 primaries as 2020 was a specia…

If she lost on the economy, it wouldn't have mattered, no one was going to turn it aorund that fast.

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Post by TomK32 »

nazgulsenpai wrote: post #382

Wouldn't it be amazing if we had a viable third party? I can dream, can't I?

Don't you worry, even with the large number of parties in the Austrian Nationalrat, German Reichstag or even in the Dutch's Tweede Kamer you still have people who are unhappy with all of the parties.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by alach11 »

helgee wrote: post #131

Shower thought: People vote for Trump because he is actually predictable. You never have to guess whose interests he is protecting. It's always his own. You never have to guess whether he is lying. He sure as hell is but there is also no hidden agenda. It's unfiltered mental diarrhea but it's raw and authentic. I think a lot of the unease and disdain for the Western political class stems from their attempts to be ino…

I think authenticity is being hugely underrated as a factor for why Trump won. People inherently trust someone who is visibly flawed and speaks off-the-cuff. This preference for authenticity has always existed, but is extra strong as a reaction to social media.
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