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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Mobile phone design peaked with the Nokia 3110 and the Motorola MicroTAC, and it's been downhill ever since.

My fav iconic Nokia design was the 7600: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7600 ;)

Don't forget the 7280! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7280

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I'm surprised that no media outlet is seriously talking about its on-device inference capability, which is the biggest next thing for LLM. Apple did a better job on its PR here, but they didn't also get all the attention that it deserves. On-device inference improves not just its latency, this also removes a huge chunk of LLM's economical constraints from software companies. The biggest advantage of software is its m…

> On-device inference improves not just its latency

this is a nuanced thing. sure you save the network hop, but you are running inference on a much more underpowered model on an underpowered device. at the end of the day you want to get the lowest time to first token and highest tokens per second. on-device optimizes TTFT at the expense of Tok/s. i think there are many usecases where Tok/s dominates in overall latency considerations.

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TBF that’s what Apple did, basically. It wasn’t in the initial release. Needed a software update 2 months later or so. You were only supposed to get 1 year (?) of service. But they extended that by a year. Because of that everyone with a qualifying phone is still in the “free” stage so we still don’t know what it will cost. Or when that will start. If ever. I’ve never used it but I like that my iPhone has it. I would…

I just used iMessage via satellite on the iOS public beta this past weekend. I forgot it even existed. The phone prompted me to update my location for "Find My" via Satellite, which I've done before. So I accepted, and got a screen that gave me the option of sending iMessage via satellite to. Sent one to a friend as a test. It's a pretty cool UI. It shows "Satellite" as the message type when writing messages, as you…

Thanks for the review. I have a Garmin inReach device that I connect to my phone when I go up in the mountains, but I would love to get rid of it. Sorry Garmin.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Would have been nice if they did a regular size (5.8”) for normal people and 6.8” for the genetic freaks with dinner plate hands. 6.3” is still huge. 5.8” is workable. And it’s not like there’s no precedent, the Zenfone 10 is also 5.8” and is adored for it.

The Zenfone 10 traded height for depth. It was very thick.

And I love it for it. Most modern phones are too thin.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

Recent Pixels support Android Virtualization Framework, which theoretically allows Linux or Android VMs alongside the primary Android OS. Could be good for experimentation.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features

Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life improvement, and having an AI assistant answer your phone and do a live transcription is straight from the Jetsons.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Google's trade-in estimates for the P9 Pro: Pixel Fold (256/512): $760 Pixel 8 Pro (128/256/512/1TB): $699 Pixel 8 (128/256): $490 Pixel 7a: $300 Pixel 7 Pro (128/256/512): $540 Pixel 7 (128/256): $360 Edit: there's a complete overview of all trade in estimates in this post: https://slickdeals.net/f/17689866-buy-pixel-9-pro-or-pixel-9...

Best Buy just gave me $1099 plus a $200 gift card for my S23 Ultra, when buying a Pixel 9 Pro XL.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Yes, that is also my anecdata (women with giant phones in their purses, or even wearing the phone as a purse). I have an iPhone 12 mini, really don't want anything bigger, but perhaps I'll go for a good watch and buds that can be online without a phone and also leave the giant phone in the bag most of the day, that would mean great battery life, less phone in hand, less distraction perhaps?

I've wanted to ditch the iPhone/Macbook and go watch/airpods/ipad for years now. They need to decouple the requirement to own an iPhone to get a watch up and running (this should be something an iPad can do), and make the iPad an actual pro dev machine. Not sure I'm ever going to get my wish, sadly.

Apple could sell $200 "indulgence" NFC dongles secured by T2 enclaves.

Tap enough sacrificial indulgences on a neutered iPad or Watch, and it will software-unlock obvious convergence functionality, whose artificial absence now proliferates physical devices and environmental expense.

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