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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by Nition »

bredren wrote: post #706
Nition wrote: post #655

Aside from the search and Siri improvements, I'm really not sure about the usefulness of all the generative stuff Apple is suggesting we might use here. If you spend an hour drawing a picture for someone for their birthday and send it to them, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the picture but in the fact that you went to the effort, and that it's something unique only you could produce for th…

I've got a fairly sophisticated and detailed story world I've been building up with my kid, it always starts the same way and there are known characters. We've been building this up for some time, this tiny universe is the most common thing for me to respond to "will you tell me a story?" (something that is requested sometimes several times a day) since it is so deeply ingrained in both our heads. Yesterday, while dr…

That's a very valid rebuttal to my comment. I think this kind of "force multiplier" use for AI is the most effective one we have right now; I've noticed the same thing with GPT-4 for programming. I know the code well enough to double check the output, but AI can still save time in writing it, or sometimes come up with a strategy that I may not have.

Maybe the fact that you did the dictation together with your child present is also notable. Even though you used the AI, you were still doing an activity together and they see you doing it for them.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by cchance »

wwalexander wrote: post #597
tonyabracadabra wrote: post #538

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The image generation is dalle 2.5 level and feels really greasy to me, beyond that I think the overall launch is pretty good! I also congratulate rabbit r1 for their timely release months before WWDC https://heymusic.ai/music/apple-intel-fEoSb

Yeah, the image generation felt really…cheap?…tasteless? but everything else was really impressive.

It's what i expected they weren't going to open the pandoras box of realistic photogen on imessage lol, thats why the limit to illustration, cartoon etc, is there to limit the liability of it going wild, they can add more "types" later as they get things more tested, realistically its just prompts hidden behind bubbles, but allows them to slowly roll out options that they've heavily vetted.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by ENGNR »

Ok I'm calling it. If NVIDIA releases a phone, and allows you to buy the hardware for the off-device processing too, I'll fully ditch Apple in a heartbeat.

I'm quite creeped out that it uses off-device processing for a personal context, and you can't host your own off-device processing, even if you have top of the line Apple silicon hardware (laptop or desktop) that could step in and do the job. Hopefully they announce it in one of the talks over the next few days.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by cchance »

Jayakumark wrote: post #594
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

Google is doing this as well but they are doing it on single app like gmail assuming all info is there and also across websites with agents but not cross apps like apple is doing across mails, messages, maps etc.

Not to mention tied into their underlying SDK API that basically the whole system is based on, and seems they are using those same API's for the internal integrations so they can feel whats missing themselves as well.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by kokon »

skygazer wrote: post #204
ladams wrote: post #100

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I don't think that 4o will actually be available for free. It seemed like they were quite careful in choosing their words. My guess is 3.5 is free without an account, and accessing 4o requires linking your OpenAI account.

They only mentioned 4o, but they mentioned it explicitly at the start, well before they mentioned one can also tie in to their openAI account, if you have one, at the end of the presentation. To me that implies 4o by default, but I guess we'll find out.

I think it's going to be free: https://openai.com/index/openai-and-apple-announce-partnersh...

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by cchance »

wwalexander wrote: post #665
Hippocrates wrote: post #601

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The AI/Cartoony person being sent as a birthday wish was super cringey, like something my boomer father would send me. I'm a fan of genmoji. That looks fun. Less a fan of generated clip art and "images for the sake of having an image here", and way, way less into this "here, I made a cornball image of you from other images of you that I have" feature. It's as lame as Animoji but as creepy as deepfakes.

Yeah, the genmoji feel like a proper Apple feature, but the full images feel cheap and pointless.

LOL you haven't been in group chats with idiot drunk friends apparently shit like that kills, i had a friend who hates iphones, i sent a dozen bing ai images of him as a cartoon doing... things... to the phone... entire chat was dieing for days.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by hot_gril »

dylan604 wrote: post #125
nkotov wrote: post #83

While I think it's cool and I appreciate Apple crafting better stories on why this is helpful, I still think for the everyday person, they won't really care if it's AI or not.

But Apple's integration means you can use it and not care if it is AI or not. It'll just become part of using iOS (let's face it, that's were the majority of Apple's users will be). From creating a new "genmoji" to any of the other examples of allowing people to do this without know WTF huggingface or the other equally ridiculously named products are. They don't need accounts. They just type a message and decide to p…

There's value in OS integration, but again, what are the real use cases? Memoji or whatever doesn't qualify. Apple has added a ton of features in recent years that I haven't used once. If it's going to manage my calendar in a way I can rely on or autocorrect will be smarter, that's useful.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by cchance »

lancesells wrote: post #362
imabotbeep2937 wrote: post #191

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"brother didn’t bother to check the flight code I sent him via message when he asks me when I’m landing for pickup" Yeah but what about people going to the wrong airport, or getting scammed by taking fake information uncritically? "Well it worked for me and anyway AI will get better.". Amen.

Even moreso why does brother take the time to bring up Siri if he can't read the flight code? It's the same thing correct?

You do know siri works while driving and other times when you don't want to go fumbling around?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

theshrike79 wrote: post #642
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #344

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> the OS will only communicate with publicly signed versions of the server for example This hardly increases security, and does not increase privacy at all. If anything it provides Apple with an excuse that they will throw at you when you ask "why can't I configure my iOS device to use my servers instead of yours?" , which is one of the few ways to actually increase privacy. This type of BS should be enough to realiz…

Can you configure a Google phone to use your servers instead of theirs for Google Assistant requests?

I don't know what your argument was going to be if I said "no", but in any case, the answer is yes, you can. You can even entirelly uninstall Google Assistant and replace it with your own software, and you do not lose any functionality of the device nor require access to private hooks to do that. I do that myself.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by ants_everywhere »

ethbr1 wrote: post #334
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

> I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem. It's the benefit of how Apple does product ownership. In contrast to Google and Microsoft. I hadn't considered it, but AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't. Nobody…

That's actually exactly what you want. No one company should know what you do on all apps.
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