I've tried a bunch of eink tablets (scribe, supernote, remarkable).
At the end of the day, I go back to just plain paper and ink, the advantages of digital just wasn't worth it. I can buy a quality notebook for $25 or less and it will last me a year. For the cost of this device that means I can get a stack of 30 of those notebooks which will last me most of the rest of my life. I doubt the daylight computer will have a 30 year service life.
Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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#732Very promising. It would be super interesting to have an in-depth (when/if possible) understanding of LivePaper. If it is indeed "as eink but solving eink problems" I feel it could be adopted (licensed) from the industry in a blink.
In general, I dislike Android on eink devices but I have to admit I am talking about classic eink tablets. The main concern would be the battery life, that is usually always reduced in respect of custom linux based OS.
Pioneering new electronic paper technology is extremely underrated and important, kudos to you all for this!
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#733Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Could you add a GPS bluetooth to it? Looking for a way to replace paper maps...
Ooh, that's a damn good idea. I used paper maps for years into the digital availability because I like being able to trace paths, draw, highlight things, and annotate them with info.
This would be a killer feature to me, though admittedly is quite niche. If the hardware gets a GPS, the app can be taken care of :-)
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#734Earlier quoted context omitted.
full refund if you dont like it its vulnerable for us as a small startup on a shoestring budget to offer this, but it is the right thing to offer (sorry we will update the page to add details to refund/return!)
Totally get it and thank you for doing that. I’ve placed an order already. It’s just there’s also the risk of getting “scammed” by a new startup as well, having it on record would help.
a fellow traveller I see. After getting robbed of over a thousand dollars in different early-product purchases that never materialized, I'm skeptical as well. OP has felt very honest to me, and their tech choices are completely much inline with what I would have done, so I'm inclined to believe them, but the more "in writing" the better.
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#735>Sol:OS is a custom Android OS carefully crafted to minimize distractions, with a clean, intuitive interface that keeps you in the flow.
I'm glad they admitted its provenance instead of hiding it like Rivian and Rabbit.
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#736Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Does this device have a locked bootloader? Edit: I just saw your other comment that "you will release tools to unlock the bootloader". What is the timeline for that? Can you do it today?
> Can you do it today?
:-D
I like your style! What's involved in such a thing? Since I bailed from Windows Phone 6.5 (after Microsoft broke every promise and turned my expensive and capable hardware into a paper weight by shutting down the store and not upgrading us to WP7 like they promised, but I digress) I've always bought Nexus, OnePlus, or Pixel devices where bootloader is easily unlockable. I did try the Moto X developer edition back in the day which required me to use their website to get an unlock key (still sad that Moto retreated on the openness/unlockability. It could have been a great long relationship Moto).
So, how complicated is a tool to unlock the bootloader?
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#737Looks beautiful and would definitely like one, though I don't think I have a use case that justifies the cost. This looks great for people who do a lot of reading and/or writing outside away from their desk. I wish that were me. My use case, fwiw: 1) I use my laptop for writing because I'm much faster on laptop than pencil anyway and if I have to carry a keyboard+ipad/epad I might as well have a laptop; 2) am not a "writer" so don't need that "distraction free" experience (though I do love the thought of it, I sadly have very little opportunity to sit in the forest and compose); 3) when I do have time for reading for pleasure, I use dead-tree paper (I've had various e-book devices over the years and keep coming back to paper: can throw it in a bag and take it on a hike with the kids without worrying about it getting damaged; I don't like "owning" (aka renting) DRM'd material; I avoid Amazon as much as possible; I buy used if I can find it; I want to be able to pass it on to someone else); 4) if I'm reading academic papers (a good use case for Daylight), I'm going to be making notes somewhere (much faster with keyboard), copy/pasting or links for reference, maybe sending a comment to a co-worker on Slack or making a TODO in Jira, and usually at my desk since it's usually work related. I used to have an iPad+keyboard but realized it didn't really provide me anything over a MacBook, so the kids have the iPad and the keyboard is in a drawer.
Major kudos for what looks like an outstanding device.
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#738Hmm. I think there’s some blurring of the lines between “e-ink / e-paper” and what this actually is, which is neither. The makers aren’t directly doing it, but neither are they actively discouraging it. Which is convenient. It would be more accurate to remove “e-paper from the post title and maybe sticky the commentators who helpfully point this out.
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#739Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…
>Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such.
I can only imagine how much tougher a Windows sell would be to your employer.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#740Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Can you use VS Code on it? Presumably using a remote back end like github codespaces?