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> unfamiliar, unfriendly, too cerebral The Witcher is one of Netflix's most watch shows. I'd also imagine that most people in English speaking countries have been exposed to Shakespeare's nickname in high school English classes.

It’s generally a common trope in fantasy and Romanticist literature. It’s also a word that exists in virtually all European languages in a similar form (bard, bardo, barde, бард), although similar but different forms may be a negative.

Yes, but I didn't want to assume that most people read literature. Even if they hadn't, "bard" is definitely out there.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I thought it was in reference to Trurl's Electronic Bard, which just about presciently predicted LLM output (though the process is a bit more dramatic, what with how it simulates the whole universe to get to that output): https://electricliterature.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Tr...

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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To me, bard just sounds phonetically gross. Reminds me of “fart” or “beard.” It calls to mind medieval stuff: the Monte Python mud scene, Skyrim’s most annoying NPCs, plucking lutes. But Gemini? That sounds like a legendary space mission; this collective engineering push against the boundaries of human knowledge. I do not have refined tastes. My b.

Trying saying it non-rhotically, like a British television presenter

Sounds like "bot", which is good from a topical perspective, but bad from a false-positive perspective.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

I thought “Bard” was an Asimov reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Someday_(short_story)

(on top of the more obvious references)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt: Below is a well-typed CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1))) ∀(z: (P 0)) (P 3) = λP λs λz (s (s (s z))) Below is an incomplete CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(…

Such a weird test. 99.9% of humans wouldn't even understand the question, let alone be able to formulate a coherent answer for it.

which is better than formulating a coherent but wrong answer

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#737

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

They’ve plastered “bard” ads everywhere in Tokyo for a while. Surprised to kill the name so quickly, the marketing team in Japan probably had no idea

(Personally, I never liked how Bard sounded. Can’t put my finger on why, it was just not a pleasant name to me)

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#738

Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

It won't take long for the interest in it to bump it to the top.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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> Your conversations are processed by human reviewers to improve the technologies powering Gemini Apps. Don’t enter anything you wouldn’t want reviewed or used. I appreciate them being upfront with that, but for a paid feature, it sucks that they offer no privacy or opt-out mechanism.

It seems like you can disable the data being used from training by turning off gemini app activity. > You can turn Gemini Apps Activity off If you don’t want future conversations reviewed or used to improve machine-learning models, turn off Gemini Apps Activity Opens in a new window .

My reading of the fine print (IAAL, FWIW) is that turning off Gemini Apps Activity does not affect whether human review is possible. It just means that your prompts won't be saved beyond 72 hours, unless they are reviewed by humans, in which case they can live on indefinitely in a location separate from your account.

I also asked Gemini (not Ultra) and it told me that there is no way to prevent human review.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#740

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Same reason Arthur Anderson changed it’s name.

Bard was panned. Change the name, lose the bad press.

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