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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by huytersd » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #505

bogwog wrote: post #499

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly Reminds me of the Stadia reveal, where the first words out of his mouth were along the lines of "I'll admit, I'm not much of a gamer" This dude needs a new speech writer.

This dude needs a new speech writer. How about we go further and just state what everyone (other than Wall St) thinks: Google needs a new CEO. One more interested in Google's supposed mission ( "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful" ), than in Google's stock price.

I don’t know. Maybe a couple of months ago I would have agreed but Google is back baby.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by TaylorAlexander » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

foobar_______ wrote: post #503

SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Agreed. The whole things reeks of being desperate. Half the video is jerking themselves off that they've done AI longer than anyone and they "release" (not actually available in most countries) a model that is only marginally better than the current GPT4 in cherry-picked metrics after nearly a year of lead-time?!?! That's your response? Ouch.

I’m impressed that it’s multimodal and includes audio. GPT-4V doesn’t include audio afaik.

Also I guess I don’t see it as critical that it’s a big leap. It’s more like “That’s a nice model you came up with, you must have worked real hard on it. Oh look, my team can do that too.”

Good for recruiting too. You can work on world class AI at an org that is stable and reliable.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by synaesthesisx » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 10:53 PM UTC

Anyone know if they're using TPUs for inference? It'll be real interesting if they're not bottlenecked by Nvidia chips.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jijji » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 10:53 PM UTC

I can't help but think that by the time they release this closed source Gemini project they brag about, the world will already have the same thing open sourced and better/comparable... ChatGPT beat them last year, and now we have a similar situation about to happen with this new product they speak of, but have yet to release anything.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by TerrifiedMouse » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 10:56 PM UTC

radicaldreamer wrote: post #697

headcanon wrote: post #532

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Its a conceit but not unjustified, they have been doing "AI" since their inception. And yeah, Sundar's term up until recently seems to me to be milking existing products instead of creating new ones, so it is a bit annoying when they act like this was their plan the whole time. Google's weakness is on the product side, their research arm puts out incredible stuff as other commenters have pointed out. GPT essentially…

It's such a short sighted approach too because I'm sure someone will develop a GPT with native advertising and it'll be a blockbuster because it'll be free to use but also have strong revenue generating potential.

One problem I see with ChatGPT replacing search is, who is going to fund the content creators that generate the training data?

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jchook » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 10:57 PM UTC

guiomie wrote: post #371

tikkun wrote: post #200

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To add to my comment above: Google DeepMind put out 16 videos about Gemini today, the total watch time at 1x speed is about 45 mins. I've now watched them all (at >1x speed). In my opinion, the best ones are: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI - variety of video/sight capabilities * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPwU1FNhMOA - understanding direction of light and plants * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D…

Watching these videos made me remember this cool demo Google did years ago where their earpods would auto translate in realtime a conversation between two people talking different languages. Turned out to be demo vaporware. Will this be the same thing?

I also get this feeling. The demo videos feel heavily edited and fabricated rather than actual demos.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by nextworddev » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 11:01 PM UTC

Not sure why people are impressed with this. For context, they are only slightly beating GPT4 marginally on some tasks but GPT4 was trained almost 10 months ago

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by confused_boner » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 11:02 PM UTC

tbalsam wrote: post #325

Apparently designed for mobile inference too, I've heard the weights on the nano model were quantized down to uint4. Will be exciting to see how all of that plays out in terms of 'LLMs on phones', going forward. People who know me know that I can be pretty curmudgeony about a lot of various technological things, but I really think that this could be a hard core paradigm shift in terms of mobile capabilities, lol. Lik…

Agree about the local models. I am very excited to see google assistant updates with the local models

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by gigatexal » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 11:05 PM UTC

Is there or is there not a chat interface or will this just replace bard or be bard’s backend?

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by drodio » Wed, Dec 06, 2023, 11:05 PM UTC

960 comments is a lot! I created a SmartChat™ where you can get a summary (or anything else) of the comments: https://go.storytell.ai/hn-geminiai and here's a summary output example: https://s.drod.io/Jrum2mQK -- hope that's helpful.