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Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by atourgates »

nologic01 wrote: post #652

The world of "tech" seems to be spiralling into a realm of absurd metaverses, the dark obsessions of a tiny gang of annointed leaders, a house of cards, lies built upon lies, increasingly desperate hypes. The whole thing detached from the deteriorating human reality, a pervasive lack of empathy for our condition. Not clear how we could / should respond to this grand fiasco. Somehow tech needs to be reinvented. Much m…

The upside of those absurd metaverses is that you can mostly just ignore them, and do your own thing.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by danudey »

kfrzcode wrote: post #712
musha68k wrote: post #602

I don’t remember who stated this but basically there is this thought that Musk was in fact mad about how on Twitter the “common man” could indeed vocally and effectively share their disagreement with his decisions. It also might have been an impulsive decision to become relevant in “new tech” at the same time (why would he care so much about this, boredom?). Ultimately he probably just wanted to get out of that impul…

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Most people aren't willing to spend so much time and energy working against the algorithm that's deliberately trying to push this content that people loathe. If I have to see a bunch of toxic BS in my timeline, and spend my time blocking people, reporting them, etc., only to see more of the same moments later, what's the point?

The problem is that there is a clash between what users want to see and what the company's algorithm wants you to see, and it seems like there's strong evidence to conclude that Musk and his platform are trying to push the kinds of things that a lot of people don't want to see.

So yes, you can spend the time and energy to self-curate and find people who have interesting opinions. I could also go to a white supremacist march and find people who have interesting things to say about classic Dr Who episodes or who have the same passion for Dungeons and Dragons as I do, but I'm not going to tolerate all that toxic crazy to find them when I can go literally anywhere else. In the end, you're still stuck in a cesspool trying to filter out the content that Twitter really, really wants you to see. If I have to work at not seeing the stuff I've explicitly chosen to see, I'm going to find anywhere else (or nowhere).

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by hendersoon »

heyjamesknight wrote: post #441

I've been mostly ambivalent about the Musk-era at Twitter—mostly because I just don't care enough to have an opinion. This, though. This one makes me angry and disappointed. Twitter has had such a solid brand for so long. It's accomplished things most marketers only dream of: getting a verb like "Tweet" into the standard lexicon is like the pinnacle of branding. Even with all of the issues, "Twitter" and its "Tweets"…

I don't necessarily think his plan to turn Twitter into WeChat for the west is /doomed/ to fail, although it seems highly unlikely to gain traction, but it's certainly a bold plan to turn the flailing social network around into something that could be significant and I respect the ambition.

Throwing away powerful branding is just a hilariously bad call.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by jokoon »

It feels like that all Musk wanted was to destroy twitter.

I really don't understand why Twitter really wanted to sell it to Musk. It always felt like a bad idea.

I understand that it was probably a matter of money and law or whatever, but I wonder how the former twitter execs are feeling about all this now.

I never really used twitter, to be clear, but to sell anything to somebody who clearly seems unfit for it because he just made an arrogant, seems quite like a bad decision. I wonder if they regret it.

Although there is one benefit in this story: it shows that Elon Musk is a clown, and as he initially did not want to buy Twitter, it seems like he is taking revenge by destroying it, which is an even better proof. Capitalism is really really awful. This story is a good example why capitalism often doesn't work.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by noelherrick »

ModernMech wrote: post #706
FreshStart wrote: post #671

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It pokes a hole in the yes man bubble. Ironically society Algo bubbles it's leaders since the dawn of time and they can't stand it to rupture. Loyalty and uniform support or else the big boss gets anxiety atracks.At the same time they can not stop lurking near dissent, cause it's the last window to reality they have. Next on mamal brain bugs..

I feel like a lot of people don’t fully appreciate this point because they are well adjusted and hear no constantly. You have to view these billionaires as toddlers. They never hear a simple “no”, and when they do they go apoplectic.

Not disagreeing, but these aren't just toddlers, but insecure toddlers who have never been told no and think people pushing back is equivalent to hate. A normal toddler who has caretakers who are loving and accepting does not respond like this.

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Post by danudey »

TheCondor wrote: post #708
heyjamesknight wrote: post #441

I've been mostly ambivalent about the Musk-era at Twitter—mostly because I just don't care enough to have an opinion. This, though. This one makes me angry and disappointed. Twitter has had such a solid brand for so long. It's accomplished things most marketers only dream of: getting a verb like "Tweet" into the standard lexicon is like the pinnacle of branding. Even with all of the issues, "Twitter" and its "Tweets"…

Does it? Social media doesn't age well. Look at myspace. This will be controversial, but Google didn't get where it wanted/needed to be with Google+ and they ripped the cord out of the wall; it seemed like it was just google being google but it may have been genius. I was also critical of FB/Meta buying Insta, I figured it was all going to somehow be Facebookgram but they kept it separate. FB is now for old people an…

> I figured it was all going to somehow be Facebookgram but they kept it separate

I'm still salty that they pulled out the Foursquare location backend and replaced it with Facebook's... whatever it is they replaced it with. Eleven years later and it's still less often correct than it was when Foursquare was providing the data.

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Post by nickelcitymario »

dathinab wrote: post #475
nickelcitymario wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the X, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

duno, pretty much everyone I know on twitter is like "I don't feel like using it anymore." and only stays around due to the remainder of the network effect and the fundamental issue of transferring followers to another platform being hard. and that it's a pretty bad branding doesn't help either, I don't want to eX my friends, imagine saying to your spouse you want to eX them etc. and I mean people often act stupid bu…

Just to clarify, I was simply playing along with the reference to Monty Python's Parrot Sketch. I'm in no way defending X or Musk.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by notahacker »

stormfather wrote: post #670
MPSimmons wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon is really, really good at a couple of things: - Identifying inefficiencies in an existing technical solution - Making people do what he wants The things that Elon is really good at don't necessarily translate to great success in a long-term strategic vision. In a pure engineering discipline, like automotive production or aerospace engineering, they're very useful, but neither one of those things necessarily lend…

You're not looking at this with the right perspective. Hyperloop, EV's, solar panels, batteries, huge tunnels, reusable rockets. What's the common thread here? This is obviously all the technology that Elon thinks is necessary to colonize Mars, and in each case he's doing the best he can to develop it on Earth. However its usefulness on Earth is a secondary concern.

Where does Twitter fit into being useful technology with which to colonize Mars?

Think the fact that the engineering problems Musk demonstrated some aptitude for finding solutions to were also vaguely related to his stated aspiration to colonise other planets actually perfectly fits the armchair speculation that Twitter is just an addictive distraction from hard science which he's pursuing out of sheer hubris, not because of any grand vision but because he said he could do better than the people in charge and people liked his posts

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Post by tills13 »

rvnx wrote: post #261
csomar wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is not a good engineer or strategist. He is good at marketing though. He got lucky with Space X and the rockets launched. He got a shit-ton of funding for Tesla, the whole business doesn't make sense (competitors can do better with tighter margins) but people threw money at him, so it worked. So he thought he is a genius and can make this one work too. He realized his mistake (tried to get off the deal) but when t…

The current vision for SpaceX is great, the product as well. Let's not forget that the initial plan of SpaceX was to meet and get drunk with Russian leaders to buy missiles from them and resell them to US market. Imagine the nightmare if it actually had worked as planned. Regarding implementation in SpaceX, the success is mostly due to very good engineers and to a less bureaucratic process, where you can move fast an…

> political issues

Ah those pesky "political issues" commonly known as "process", "due diligence", or "laws".

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by npollock »

heyjamesknight wrote: post #441

I've been mostly ambivalent about the Musk-era at Twitter—mostly because I just don't care enough to have an opinion. This, though. This one makes me angry and disappointed. Twitter has had such a solid brand for so long. It's accomplished things most marketers only dream of: getting a verb like "Tweet" into the standard lexicon is like the pinnacle of branding. Even with all of the issues, "Twitter" and its "Tweets"…

if you're throwing away arguably billions in brand equity, you can be sure the app's about to change radically
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