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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by anileated »

jackbrookes wrote: post #696
john_max_1 wrote: post #431

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Instagram is good at improving their app experience by incorporating features. However, it is not good at launching standalone apps either. Consider 1. Boomerang - https://www.niemanlab.org/reading/instagram-launches-a-standalone-app-boomerang-that-turns-photos-into-a-1-second-video-loop/ 2. Shopping app that was never launched? - https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/4/17819766/instagram-shopping-app-e-commerce 3. Layout…

Also IGTV standalone app

Also Threads (yes, Instagram killed Threads once already: https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22787783/instagram-threa...).

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by rvz »

smoldesu wrote: post #29
tomger wrote: post #19

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You probably don’t want this as that would end in Embrace, extend, and extinguish.

How, exactly? What control does Meta exert over the Fediverse that the users cannot resist?

Meta has lots of money, which the Fediverse does not and needs money to stay online. This is why admins of very large instances signed NDA with Meta to federate with them.

Money is power.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by version_five »

rsynnott wrote: post #711
afavour wrote: post #234

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great I mean, it's extremely clear that current Twitter leadership doesn't understand that either. They're not competing with Twitter at its prime (or at least its peak influence; personally I preferred it when it was a lot smaller in the early 10s) from a few years ago; they're competing with a website that just went completely dark to the public internet and…

Twitter is monetized outrage. A lot had to fall into place for that to work. Of course they need a working website, but beyond that I believe they are way sticker than pundits claim. That unique combination of echo chamber plus the ability to reach across and mock, abuse, or become enraged by the other side, all while having a community, is not easily replicable.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by frankacter »

john_max_1 wrote: post #669
frankacter wrote: post #548

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Facebook gaming is huge platform that exists within the Messaging platform. While they may have consolidated from a standalone app to a service in an existing platform, that is not a "fail" by any measure. The same goes for Facebook Events, which is hugely popular within the Facebook platform.

Read my original comment again. I asked for successful standalone products.

I understand what you asked for, but it's a distinction without a purpose as indicated and just by that measure is misleading.

Many of these experiments are intended to start out as standalone apps that have their best features folded back into the main product and the user's transitioned over. That's by design. Framing it as a failure is not reasonable from that perspective.

This is especially true of many of the products you listed that are arguably some of the most used function of the main platform like messaging, gaming, and events. They all contribute a significant amount to the DAU for Facebook.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by thom »

netheril96 wrote: post #620
foooorsyth wrote: post #566

Anyone interested in talking about the product decisions instead of Musk/Zuck hate? - Interesting that they went with a stand-alone app instead of baking this into IG like they did with Stories (which killed Snap overnight). I wonder how much they’ll advertise the download inside of IG. - Can’t say I like the name. Doesn’t evoke much emotion in me. The term “thread” is rarely used by normies without the word “Twitter…

I don't like the name "Threads" either. Probably because I'm a programmer.

I don't like the name. Probably because I'm from Sheffield.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads_(1984_film)

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by abdusco »

keyle wrote: post #373
ggasp wrote: post #366

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Threads.net https://www.threads.net/

Poor threads.com missing on their 2M exit /s

They're probably getting the highest traffic they've seen in years. And they'll continue to get it until `threads` search results are dominated by the Threads app.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by vidarh »

neximo64 wrote: post #567
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Until someone like your parents use it casually they have no shot. BlueSky and Mastadon quite sorry to say have no shot. Your kind of opinion is clearly from someone who lives in a bubble or inexperienced.

Talking about Mastodon is talking about the wrong level. Whether or not the Fediverse succeeds does not depend on Mastodon alone, but also e.g. Pleroma, Misskey, Akkoma, Pixelfed, Peertube, Bookwyrm, Lemmy, and many more, all of which federate.

It's very possible we've not yet even seen the killer app for the Fediverse yet, but it can survive even if none of them individually get "big enough" in a way that many of the other Twitter competitors won't, not least because they're viable even as small self-contained communities.

As such, they don't need to "have a shot", and in the long run, ironically, that gives both the network as a whole and individual apps a shot. E.g. you can launch w/ActivityPub compatibility and instantly have some degree of network effect that helps levelling the playing field.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by christophilus »

afavour wrote: post #234
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

Serious question: for all of you “Musk / Zuck doesn’t get it” folks, what made Twitter great? I’ve never understood the appeal of it. Count me in the camp of those who don’t understand what made Twitter great.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by vidarh »

russdpale wrote: post #694
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

uh, threads is mastodon.

Sort of. It's clear yet to what degree they'll federate or be able to federate given the animosity towards Meta and the seeming back room negotiations they've been alleged to be engaged in.
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