They will lose me as well if they try it here in the US. I pay for multiple screens for a reason.. if they try and restrict this to specific devices and locations … value proposition changes and I am out.
Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
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#732Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…
> Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family members with heuristics, geoblocking, per-device-checks and so on?“.
Don't forget cancelling shows constantly. I'm not getting invested in anything Netflix unless I know it has an ending already.
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#733Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow, I never heard about that and I suspect it's not well-known at all inside the EU.
It is so well known that it's common to automatically skip content from within the EU. It's usually low-quality fund-farming subpar filler stuff. The most notable exception are spanish films, and those from lesser-known EU countries. Anything from france and germany is almost by definition trash. In other words: no different than almost all efforts of the EU to "regulate the market" instead of creating incentives. My…
"Dix pour cent" is great.
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#734Earlier quoted context omitted.
What quality bar does Dark not clear? American shows do of course get wild budgets and can do some crazy stuff, but there’s good international tv
My personal bar of what counts as AAA I guess? It actually started quite well, but second half of the series drags down the average in terms of story/screenwriting/camera/VFX. It doesn't stand near the likes of Foundation, Game of Thrones, Mrs. Maisel, Mr. Robot, The Wire Doing TV is a marathon, perhaps Dark showrunners are more of sprinter people and should do movies instead.
You'd be hard-pressed to find much that's going to stand with Game of Thrones on production values.
Dark, I'd agree, faded in terms of the plotting as it got kind of all twisted up in itself toward the end, but I still liked it quite a bit. And you could say similar things about some of your other picks, like Mr. Robot (or Game of Thrones for that matter). Sustained excellence season after season is really hard to achieve.
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#735There are a lot of people who know what to do to fix this and turn around the entire situation and make everyone happier.
Netflix refuses to hire those people and instead finds the exact opposite kind of person....
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#736I don't understand why people are in such uproar over netflix pricing. $10 a month is an incredible price for what you get. There's not alot you can do for $10 these days. You can barely grab lunch in lots of places. And you're talking about a whole month where many people use it for hours every evening? Imagine Netflix was $1 or $2 to unlock for 24 hours. I think alot of people would consider that fair. Many would p…
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
My view is that there is less and less stuff on Netflix that interests me. Shows that I liked in the beginning usually turn into the typical American never ending twisting drag out. There are weeks where I don't use it at all.
While 10$ is not much for some it can be a lot for others. E.g. youth unemployment and job security are big challenges in Spain from what I've heard.
I'm not justifying the password sharing. I think it is wrong to assume that all users can be converted to paying customers.
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#737Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly! I had the same reaction. First episode, "Okay, an interesting (if well worn) setup, a lead character that is somewhat interesting, some dynamics." to second episode "Well that really didn't feel particularly entertaining", to the third episode, "not getting better, time to get off this train."
I just watched “Ghosted”. It was somewhat entertaining, but hardly stellar. This is the sort of movie that is being released these days, and we can easily take it or leave it.
Dexter Fletcher as director piqued my interest in Ghosted just a wee bit. I read The Rachel Papers as a youngster and quite enjoyed the film when it came out (in which he plays the main character in the book).
I'll probably watch it on holiday to hedge against the possibility of losing two hours of my life on a school night :)
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> I too have noticed the big gap is writers I started watching "The Night Agent" but the dialogue became too painful for me to carry on after about four or five episodes. That coupled with a script where two secret service agents bitch at each other like children eventually nailed the coffin.
Exactly! I had the same reaction. First episode, "Okay, an interesting (if well worn) setup, a lead character that is somewhat interesting, some dynamics." to second episode "Well that really didn't feel particularly entertaining", to the third episode, "not getting better, time to get off this train."
I feel the same is also happening with Rabbit Hole, though I might persist with it. The Kiefer and Charles Dance in the same series, what's not to like?
Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing
#739Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…
> Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family members with heuristics, geoblocking, per-device-checks and so on?“. Don't forget cancelling shows constantly. I'm not getting invested in anything Netflix unless I know it has an ending already.
Yes, so annoying. Some shows just makes you interested, invested in the story, you learn the characters' names... Then the season ends, you look up when the next season comes out... And you see that the show has been canceled... Happened too many times, last one that really frustrated me was GLOW.
I wonder if it has a vicious circle, spiral component to it, like how Google keeps killing their products because people don't adapt them, because Google keeps killing their products.
Some percentage of users don't trust Netflix anymore and don't start watching a series until they know it has an ending. A new show launches, it doesn't perform too well, so Netflix cancels it after the second season. Now, the people who enjoyed the show will be more sceptical of new shows, and now a larger percentage of users will "boycott" new shows.
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#740Earlier quoted context omitted.
That and one of the great benefits of Netflix was that you could watch multiple seasons of a show, and that a season was 20 ish episodes. Now they do 7 episodes and call it a season and frequently their shows only have one or two seasons.
I found that to be one of the drawbacks of Netflix, and all other streaming services. A story that could easily be told in 100min or a few hours takes 10+ hours to slog through. Excessive sequences of characters getting high, or repeating tasks, or irrelevant side quests to pad the content time statistics, or make people feel like their monthly fees are worth it.
Yes, this is especially true for successful shows. They can be told in 2-3 seasons but they end up as 5 seasons. The pace of storytelling crawls to a halt in the middle seasons typically.