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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by aww_dang »

pphysch wrote: post #712
gsibble wrote: post #695

Bob was a good friend, tried to hire me numerous tries at Square, and was my next door neighbor for 3 years. I knew him well and spent a lot of time with him. He will be dearly missed. I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit. That being said, I left San Francisco in 2018 because I was worried I would eventually become the random murder that would finally…

> I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit. Targeted hits and random street crime are quite different, no?

If we accept this framing, we might speculate further by imagining the "random street crime" part is either a cover-up or the murderer intended it to look like, "random street crime".

A bit too morbid to speculate on for my taste, but I hope this helps to explain.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by dang »

farmaway wrote: post #46

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The karma threshold for flags is only 30. High karma users don't have any special voting or flagging power.

Edit: It looks like your account has been using HN primarily, if not exclusively, for political and ideological battle. That's not allowed here, regardless of what you're battling for or against—it's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use this site as intended going forward, we'd appreciate it.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by twblalock »

JoshTko wrote: post #558
kenneth wrote: post #151

I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.

Honest question, what if the tech industry is a root cause?

If an increase of wealth creation is a problem for a city, that city is being badly run.

It's pretty obvious on the ground in SF that the homeless problem is fundamentally a problem of mental illness and drug abuse. A fairly large portion of the homeless there are not from SF but came there because SF tolerates behavior other cities do not. Even if there was an empty, free house offered to every homeless person in SF there would still be a massive problem because many of them would be unwilling to accept it.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by micromacrofoot »

hintymad wrote: post #713

I don't see what's wrong with SF. /sarcasm SF is the people's choice, no? The people in SF elected DAs who release booked violent criminals right away, multiple times. The people in SF elected politicians who told us, repeatedly and publicly, that looting is a way for people to express their anger or looters were hungry, and violent criminals are victims and questioning their policies are homophobic and racism. The p…

Are you not connecting the dots here at all? You think SF would have headed in this direction if it wasn't heavily gentrified by enormous SF salaries and subsequent nimbyism?

It's the same gentrification -> disparity -> flight -> neglect cycle that's happened to lesser degrees elsewhere. This is unique only in its severity.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

dxbydt wrote: post #671

Speaking as an immigrant - Worked in SF most of last decade. Left in 2018. Crime was on a steady uptick while I was there. Once in the Bart, a young man grabbed a cellphone from the guy seated right next to me & bolted out of the train. The train started, and the cellphone owner gave chase. The Bart police arrived soon after, with guns pointed straight at the passengers. The robber was fast and jumped over the turnst…

> So for a whole 3 days, the garage was wide open & anybody could have walked in & grabbed whatever. Nothing was taken. On the contrary there was a nice note from the neighbor about applying grease on the railing so the garage door stays closed.

Everyone seems to be missing a piece of critical non-political information.

One setting is rural, everyone owns the house, lives there long-term, everyone knows neighbours. You don't want to ruin relationship with neighbours for $100.

The other setting is Urban, you don't know neighbours, you don't care what they think. Everyone appears out of nowhere and disappears into obscurity.

The social dynamics is totally different, and the housing crisis has a big role to play in it.

Also you do not Have_To own the house to feel like you live there long term and know neighbours - many European countries have social housing, or massive restrictions on landlords kicking out tenants. So tenants stay in the same place for decades, and there is a real community.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by nashashmi »

ninjagoo wrote: post #650
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

So Wikipedia has a list of US Cities, sortable by crime rate, and has separate statistics for violent crime and property crime [1]. This list is based on FBI's data from 2019. By that list, sorted by the total violent crime rate from highest to lowest, SF is 37th on the list of 100 cities, NYC is 59th, Austin is 73rd. In absolute numbers, SF is 715/100k, NYC is 539/100k, Austin is 415/100k. Also, by that list, the to…

where is Camden and Compton on that list?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by dang »

kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic or regional flamewar. Of all the things we don't need here, that is one of the easiest to avoid.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by alex_sf »

artsytrashcan wrote: post #726
subsubzero wrote: post #708

Its a real bummer with SF, but the problems are totally self inflicted. If the politics were of a different breed I could see it being one of the best cities to live in the US, let alone the world. Having worked there for close to a decade the stuff I have seen was really depressing. I visited my cousin who works at Ouster nearby for lunch one day and was wondering what all these white casings were littering the grou…

I will fill in the vagueness of your "vote different" statement with specifics of my own: progressive, redistributive policies that radically reduce inequality and that gives a controlling portion of the influence that currently sits with capital owners to the general public. Tax rich people, use the money to steamroll their NIMBYism, and build dense housing and public infrastructure that supports a healthy and susta…

"What if we took money from the people that have provably used it to create more value and instead gave it to drug addicts who shit on the sidewalk?

I know SF already spends 100k/yr per homeless resident, but we really need to push that up."

This whole line of thought is absurd, you're in a bubble.

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