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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by colordrops »

mmastrac wrote: post #11
LinuxBender wrote: post #2

Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…

I use a FP4 in Canada and it's been amazing. I suffer from a lack of parts, but I make up with that for excuses to vacation in Europe.

Can't parts be shipped from Europe?

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Post by danuker »

foepys wrote: post #718
999900000999 wrote: post #457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of jacks if you know where to look. Midrange phones like the Moto G line still have them.

I will never buy a high end Android phone for three reasons: - no headphone jack - no SD card slot - all come with ad-ware and un-uninstallable third-party apps like Facebook (except for Google Pixels, which don't satisfy the first two criteria) Mid range is where it's at. Why pay $200 more for 256 instead of 128 GB when I can put in my 1,000 GB mircoSD card? It's a shame that Fairphone went with the no SD card trend…

Because tech companies are about to fill your storage with un-uninstallable bloat.

Built-in storage is the next limitation, if you get past holding your huge-screen no-grip phone securely (like with a pop holder) and the battery that degrades exponentially f(time).

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by ocimbote »

arran-nz wrote: post #728
peterlk wrote: post #391

And it comes with a 3mm headphone jack! Hallelujah!! I’m so, so glad someone is stepping up to fill this niche. My only complaint, and it’s kind if a big one, is that the screen is too damn big. I’m tired of phone manufacturers forcing me to carry a television in my pocket. I want something small that I can hold in one hand without a pop socket. I’ll trade performance, camera quality, basically anything for a phone w…

Checkout the Asus Zenfone 8, it's smaller, has 3mm jack, and supports LineageOS.

It's +600€.

I'd rather buy 4 of the Nokia and live with the unwanted big screen rather than having the "right" form factor for 4x the price. That's not even a compromise here.

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Post by einpoklum »

enraged_camel wrote: post #714
dataflow wrote: post #685

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while offering just three years of security updates, after which you basically have to throw the thing away Nope, you don't. It's just that somehow techies seem to have gotten this meme into their heads that an unpatched life isn't worth living. Can't update my phone within 1 microsecond of a patch being released? I guess I might as well just die. Much safer than risking the > The repairability sounds nice, but it…

>> Can't update my phone within 1 microsecond of a patch being released? I guess I might as well just die. Much safer than risking the Malware can indeed be worse than hell. Have you ever had your bank account hacked? Or your email account broken into? Or your identity stolen and had to deal with dozens of credit cards being registered and then hit the limit under your name? I’ve had friends (and family) deal with su…

> Malware can indeed be worse than hell. Have you ever had your bank account hacked? Or your email account broken into? Or your identity stolen and had to deal with dozens of credit cards being registered and then hit the limit under your name?

To be honest - as an older-phone user, that's part of why I never access email on my phone, nor my bank account. I see my phone as something that's basically insecure, and take into account (no pun intended) the possibility that other people will be able to access its contents.

I realize, though, that many old phone users don't hold this view necessarily.

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Post by [deleted] »

tcmb wrote: post #725
roryisok wrote: post #723

I live waaaaay behind the curve, phone wise. I buy phones from about 5 years ago and I don't spend more than about 150 at a time. Every now and then a phone comes along that makes me want to break that trend and buy something new, and this is definitely a strong contender.

Out of curiosity, that means you deliberately buy phones when they are pretty much guaranteed to not receive any updates anymore, including security updates? Or do you install custom ROMs?

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Post by roryisok »

tcmb wrote: post #725
roryisok wrote: post #723

I live waaaaay behind the curve, phone wise. I buy phones from about 5 years ago and I don't spend more than about 150 at a time. Every now and then a phone comes along that makes me want to break that trend and buy something new, and this is definitely a strong contender.

Out of curiosity, that means you deliberately buy phones when they are pretty much guaranteed to not receive any updates anymore, including security updates? Or do you install custom ROMs?

the first one. I don't really care about updates. as long as it has a browser and takes photos, its pretty much all I use it for. I actually was a Windows Phone user until very recently (and WP8, not even WP10! how's that for behind the times) but the IE based browser is unusable on the modern web now, and you can't install apps anymore

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Post by pjmlp »

system16 wrote: post #497
pjmlp wrote: post #99

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Now try the same with an iPhone 5.

If we are going back to 2012, how are the Nexus 4 and Samsung Galaxy S3 holding up compared to current Android phones?

It was a random model, as iPhone 11, released in 2019 wasn't what I consider old, rather those on their last update legs.

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Post by roryisok »

dmichulke wrote: post #729
tcmb wrote: post #725

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, that means you deliberately buy phones when they are pretty much guaranteed to not receive any updates anymore, including security updates? Or do you install custom ROMs?

I suppose he uses a custom OS like LineageOS. I do the same, it's cheap and much more secure (threat model is also: google tracking you).

I don't but now I'm curious

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Post by roryisok »

einpoklum wrote: post #730
tcmb wrote: post #725

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, that means you deliberately buy phones when they are pretty much guaranteed to not receive any updates anymore, including security updates? Or do you install custom ROMs?

Quite possibly - like hundreds of Millions of other people who use older phones.

This is the reason. All those people who need to be on the absolute bleeding edge, sell perfectly good phones for a quarter of what they cost new, to people like me. Everyone I know buys new phones for anywhere up to 800 for the latest Samsungs (and don't even get me started on the Apple stuff) and I just can't fathom it. It's like buying a brand new car and then selling it three years later to buy another brand new one because there's a slightly better entertainment system.

And yes, I know some of you probably also do that.

Maybe I'm just a penny pinching old man

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