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Are people here actually trying this out or is it vaporware as of yet? I ask because this seems ambiguous: The new Bing is live today “for desktop limited preview,” but it appears users are only able to “ask” one of a number of preset queries and receive the same results each time. There is also a waitlist to sign up for full access in the future. If it's just an announcement of an announcement*, we should downweight…

Apple does it right by timing the PR to coincide close to when the general public can act on the new knowledge (order a new i-device).

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

Edge is genuinely very very good. It does have some dev tool problems that I've run into, but for browser it's top notch.

Also genuinely very good at being the worst privacy browser, it's as worse as Yandex: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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"Join the waiting list" is what turned me off. I'm already trying hard enough to use Windows 11 without a Microsoft account (local only) so that I'm definitely not signing into Bing on Edge. Next step they'll require me to link the OS to it.

I recently setup a new laptop for someone with windows 11 and was surprised how easy it was to get around the online account stuff. The wifi was on when I hit the account setup part, I didnt want to make an account for someone else (name an email and password for someone else, what a mess, no thanks), so I powered the router down. The account screen didnt seem to give any options at all to work around it and make a l…

"Easy" is clicking a "Local account" button. Turning off the bloody router is the opposite of easy.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Get this, if you use Edge, with bing as search by default and join the waitlist, then another button appears "get access faster" or something, which then takes you to a page to make sure you've defaulted everything to Microsoft, and you've scanned a QR code to download a Bing mobile app. I can't be bothered _all_ of that. Mainly the addition of a new mobile app.

Microsoft is using this announcement to get people to install "Bing Wallpaper" and a mobile app. That doesn't inspire confidence.

Bing Wallpaper is the only good thing that Microsoft has done in years! [1]

Sources:

1.) Me (being a bit hyperbolic, I'll grant)

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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post #276

Are people here actually trying this out or is it vaporware as of yet? I ask because this seems ambiguous: The new Bing is live today “for desktop limited preview,” but it appears users are only able to “ask” one of a number of preset queries and receive the same results each time. There is also a waitlist to sign up for full access in the future. If it's just an announcement of an announcement*, we should downweight…

Apple does it right by timing the PR to coincide close to when the general public can act on the new knowledge (order a new i-device).

I still cannot order a Macbook Pro M2 in Taiwan yet :(

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Edge is genuinely very very good. It does have some dev tool problems that I've run into, but for browser it's top notch.

I want to use Edge but for some reason, on my 3 monitor display - it lags when crossing into another display. Firefox does not do this at all.

Not sure if anyone's still reading this and experiencing the same issues as I am, but I'll put my solution down. NOt sure how stable it is, or whatever, since I just enabled it, but going to edge://flags and enabling Vulkan eliminated this hiccup I would get with Edge when moving the window between monitors.

Edit: nevermind.. weird UI glitches abound

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

The cordyceps-like elegance of using Googles core browser tech and foundational LLM research to try and flip the tables on them feels to me quintessentially Microsoft going back to it's roots behaviour.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Fans of privacy-first browsers and search engines should take notice. The eventual mode (or modes) chatgpt and similar language algorithms get integrated will not settle for a while but it is likely that it will do in some shape or form. Thinking about and building apps and services and ethical business models that use this new toolkit to good effect seems more opportune than normal.

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Does it nag you constantly and do everything it can to steal data from you? I think lots of Microsoft products are now technically very good, but I don't like using them because they can't stop annoying me about stuff, and every time I turn my back are committing industrial espionage.

> Does it nag you constantly and do everything it can to steal data from you? I remember having to spend a little while de-shittifying it, they push the Shopping/Rewards stuff pretty hard and clutter up the UI. You can't get rid of Bing on the new tab page without extensions / other hoops.

Knowing Microsoft they will keep re-shitting it all back with random Windows Updates and then some. 100%. They don't give a damn if people don't like what they are forcing their throats, they just keep at it until it's there.
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