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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by KptMarchewa »

AnonymousPlanet wrote: post #578
nickysielicki wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So not only are they going to find a vulnerability on twitter’s backend that allows them to remotely execute code on the Twitter servers, but then they’re also going to find some vulnerability in the app that is accessible from the previous vulnerability on the backend that allows them to execute arbitrary code on my phone, without pushing any sort of app update to the Apple store, and then they’re going to use that…

You can use Twitter with a third party app. In this regard Twitter stands out from the likes of Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok etc. and is the reason I use it and none of the others.

Reddit is another positive standout here.

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Post by randomsearch »

nemothekid wrote: post #34
pschuegr wrote: post #25

I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

> Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars. It's a comp…

His stated thesis is to turn it an “everything app”.

Hardcore engineering may be needed to pivot and get to profitability.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/what-is-an-everything-app...

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Post by dale_glass »

watwut wrote: post #716
dale_glass wrote: post #695

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's my own understanding: * Musk didn't really want to buy Twitter. He screwed up and got locked into a contract he couldn't figure out a way out of. * Having figured that he vastly overpaid, he panicked and tried to cut down the fat. Problem is that he hasn't spent enough time there to figure out where's the fat. * Musk fundamentally doesn't understand what he has bought. He doesn't understand that Twitter's busi…

> He doesn't understand that Twitter's business relies on pleasing advertisers, who don't give a crap about free speech ideals and are very risk averse. Musk does not care about free speech either.

That's a good point, true free speech fanatics are extremely rare. Most everyone in reality thinks that their group is being silenced, and wouldn't mind silencing their ideological opposition.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Post by sensanaty »

1letterunixname wrote: post #69

EM->sr engs: "Why did so many good engineers leave?" Sr engs: ... (Because you're an a.h.) People without equity should refuse to work like indentured servants for peanuts only to be told "they're not working hard enough". It's the only way to teach EM a lesson about hubris. $50 says Twitter will die down to a skeleton staff and be kept afloat by third-rate MSPs. No one will want to work on that creaky, steaming pile…

>... work like indentured servants ...

I'm sorry but are you reading what you're putting down here? These people are making ridiculous swathes of money doing piss easy work, let's not go overboard with the hyperbole here

I do hope Twitter dies a painful death, however, so I'm with you on that bet

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Post by dangerface »

ShredKazoo wrote: post #602

So here's my understanding of what happened, appreciating corrections: * Twitter was known for liberal corporate politics, most employees liberal * Purchased by center-right billionaire in the name of freedom of speech (modern liberals against freedom of speech) * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult * Billionaire delivers ultimatum, many employees out * Unclear if sufficient know…

> * Twitter employees amuse themselves by making billionaire's life difficult

Elon got them to print out their code and pissed off the advertisers that where paying them. I don't think it was the employees that made life difficult.

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Post by unityByFreedom »

yrgulation wrote: post #522

My respect to twitter folks quitting en mass is through the roof. I understand those who can not quit right now due to financial commitments. But as soon as your house is in order, quit. This will send a strong message to anyone trying to emulate musk.

Why? Better payday if you get fired.

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Post by ryanSrich »

westhom wrote: post #717
hintymad wrote: post #175

The management is worried about internal sabotage? My Twitter friends said Twitter has been having large exodus. CSL(core systems lib?) team, blobstore team, graph platform team, and revenue forecasting team seemed have all quit. I'm not sure how robust and autonomous Twitter's infra is. Hopefully Twitter will continue to function.

It makes me wonder how much “infrastructure runway” a company like Twitter has. If every engineer resigns, how long will it take before the infrastructure stops working autonomously… server/DB hard drives fill up or crash, PSUs die, high maintenance processes grind to a haunt, network capacity stops scaling, etc.

My guess is a few weeks if that. However, the World Cup is starting this weekend, and Twitter will see heavy traffic spikes. I assume in the chaos that has been the last month they’ve failed to properly account for this. Maybe I’m wrong, but if Twitter holds up through this weekend it’ll be a clear sign they had way too many employees.

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Post by wildrhythms »

allen3 wrote: post #64

Elon needs to step down and remove himself from the company. No one with any sanity would want to work in that environment right now. Proper leadership would be one great step towards fixing all of these issues.

> No one with any sanity

No one with any sanity and a U.S. citizenship. Visa holders under Twitter's sponsorship are trapped.

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