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Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Gordonjcp » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:10 AM UTC

ginger2016 wrote: post #335

clouddrover wrote: post #322

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What in particular is racist about it?

If you have watched the show and failed see why it is racist, then we need to give some anti-racist education. It is affirming the stereotype Indian males lack confidence with women. Raj can’t speak with women without the use of alcohol, the show constantly mocks his accent, worshipping of cows etc.

Tell me you're white and live in the whitest neighbourhood possible without telling me you're white and live in the whitest neighbourhood possible.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by wruza » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:10 AM UTC

Such unequal treatment is bizarre

I may lack huge parts of these contexts or misinterpret them, but there is something obvious in the pictures alone.

Kissing in a drama may have a very different connotation than in a sitcom, or may simply be one of the central scenes. The difference in the back exposing scenes is not in the back itself, but in the man in the background looking to the forward part of this back. I’m not pro censorship and mostly not pro conservatism, but this complete blindness to the difference in context and inability to hypothesize it feels, well, bizarre itself.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Gordonjcp » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:11 AM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #465

ginger2016 wrote: post #369

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Asian men historically have been desexualized. The show is relying on that stereotype. https://youtu.be/2k82hIqd1Os

Raj is an Indian male who is desexualized. Sheldon is a white male who is desexualized. Leonard is a white male who is desexualized. Harold is a white male who is oversexualized in creepy ways. And I'm not even sure "desexualized" is the right word. With both Raj and Leonard, at least, I remember there were many plot points about their difficulty with women. "Desexualized" to me would mean that they weren't even seen…

Sheldon's not neuro-atypical, he's what neurotypical writers thing neuro-atypical (not sure that's even a word, but it's good) are like.

Sheldon could be more accurately diagnosed as "a total pain in the arse".

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by jarek83 » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:12 AM UTC

As far as censoring is concerning, can I just diverge to how crazy cool is the page - I mean the UX, the thoroughness of the subject and execution of it. I'm in awe.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Gordonjcp » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:12 AM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #10

I can see how this might backfire. You notice a censored jump and start to feel the itch of curiosity as to what it concealed. I had to watch several of the censored scenes whereas I would have never just randomly watched clips of the show. Also, love the presentation on this page.

You probably haven't heard about The Streisand Effect because They want to keep it quiet.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Gordonjcp » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:13 AM UTC

commandlinefan wrote: post #104

ALittleLight wrote: post #10

I can see how this might backfire. You notice a censored jump and start to feel the itch of curiosity as to what it concealed. I had to watch several of the censored scenes whereas I would have never just randomly watched clips of the show. Also, love the presentation on this page.

aka "The Streisand Effect".

Ssssh! You're not allowed to talk about that... :-D

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by astrange » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:14 AM UTC

trasz wrote: post #707

astrange wrote: post #488

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Publishing military secrets is legal (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_... .). Journalists don't have a duty to keep classified information secret, only the people who've agreed to keep it secret do.

Obviously false, see Assange.

Assange hasn't been convicted of anything yet. Seeing as he was part of a conspiracy to steal the classified information, probably will be though.

The bit of the Espionage Act that conflicts with my previous post is unconstitutional.

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by mnsc » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:15 AM UTC

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #415

ginger2016 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have watched the show and failed see why it is racist, then we need to give some anti-racist education. It is affirming the stereotype Indian males lack confidence with women. Raj can’t speak with women without the use of alcohol, the show constantly mocks his accent, worshipping of cows etc.

So what? It's a comedy tv series. I'm a slav and from the balkans, we're either portrayed as tracksuit wearing thugs, drunks or in some relation to the balkan wars. So what? We even have our own comedy tv series playing with the stereotypes (eg. Kursadzije), where all the stereotypes are used all the time (serbs and croats have historic "issues", montenegrins are lazy, bosnians are stupid and slovenians are femboys).…

Another stereotype that exists is that all balkans are raging racists and will start war with anyone close by because they deem them subhuman. This is just a stereotype, so "so what?" right? And when you are waving off "laughing at stupid bosnians" as "so what?" this doesn't contradict that stereotype but rather reinforces it. So do you think it's fair that I assume you are indeed racist and treat you as such? You won't get angry or upset?

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by janandonly » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:20 AM UTC

The following stuff is censored in China:

  TV series or movies should be edited if they have the following content: (1) distorting Chinese and other countries’ culture and society; (2) defaming Chinese military forces, policemen, and judiciary; (3) showcasing obscenity content, either visual or verbal; (4) showcasing “excessive” images of murder, violence, horror, interrogation, drug-taking, and even gambling; (5) advertise negative and decadent values or deliberately exaggerate the negative part of society; (6) advocate religious extremism; (7) advocate environmental destruction and animal torture; (8) excessively showcase alcohol addiction, smoking, or other bad habits; (9) demonstrate other illegal content.

I have to ask: How would simply not putting this kind of negative stuff in our media not benefit us?

Why does a TV show have to show a lot of gore?

Why can we only laugh about sexual explicit jokes?

My only issue is with (9) because what is legal today can be illegal tomorrow. Simply no longer being allowed to mention something that was/is/going to be illegal is a bit far fetching I guess..

Re: The Big [Censored] Theory

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Post by Kye » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 9:29 AM UTC

Agentlien wrote: post #628

andruby wrote: post #123

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We (the HN crowd, often living in less-censored societies) would be very curious. I’d like to know how curious this would make non-HN people, and those living in more censored places. My assumption is that they take it for granted and just continue to watch the show. It might be hard for them to even find the uncensored clips.

Growing up in Sweden, I mainly watched Swedish (original or dubbed) shows as a kid. Once we got satellite and I started watching American channels I had my first encounter with censorship. Bleeps and blurs and random spots where audio cuts out. It was very jarring. I couldn't understand it at all and still can't. It really stands out, breaks the flow, makes everything feel cheap and ugly. In real life people swear an…

TV edits ruin everything. There's a scene in Independence Day where Will Smith's character is running from an alien fighter, and he says "oh no you did not shoot that green shit at me." TV edits make it "green stuff," and it does not work.