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Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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How the heck is your daughter not on the mode of YouTube where it doesn't switch to whatever is recommended next and how come she isn't taught not to watch shorts? I don't have kids and I don't want kids but like is it really hard to completely enforce some sort of a online media literacy?

To enforce restrictions is indeed very hard. I know because I do it, using a whitelisting proxy. It's possible (even uncircumventably for mobile devices, using a managed device and an always-on wireguard vpn) but it is far from trivial to do and I am in a vanishingly tiny minority in doing it. To enforce literacy is of course easy. Talk to them, teach them. To enforce that a child actually follows your advice not to…

Well said. I've been using a combination of OS, Service, and hardware tools to slowing restrict and guide my children online. It's incredibly difficult and tedious.

The average non-tech parent has no hope in this regard.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Knock it off. These are children who had no say in what their ancestors did.

They have a say in what remains of the power structures created by their white supremacist ancestors, the privileges that system provides and the inequities those privileges feed on. They could be working to dismantle those power structures, but they have to recognize that they exist first and that yes by default all things are not equal.

Ignoring that fact or obsessing over petty things like not having a pass to say the n-word doesn't help anyone or accomplish anything productive.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…

> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.

You absolutely know what they're referring to, playing coy about it was understandable a decade ago but the mask is obviously off. If you live in the western world, even living in a shack in the middle of wyoming, the fact you are online means you are fully aware and these types of comments are not only non-productive, but disingenuous which is a becoming a trend among people that propagate the diversity initiative as a way of being openly anti-european while retaining a moral high ground. It has to stop or hatred will come full circle.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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I’ll counter that with the caveat that my kids are grade 5 and younger. We’re very involved in school and other activities - my wife is a PTO president and long time member, I coach youth sports and other community type programs. The kids we have seen mostly don’t engage with social media directly. But the ones who transition from cute 5-6 year olds to problematic 10-12 year olds have a key common factor. Tablets. Yo…

I played on, probably, one of the worst soccer teams in the country. Weekly double digit losses. In soccer . Still had fun. I didn't go pro as it turns out. Somehow, I suspect I wouldn't have, even if I'd been on the best team in the country... Is soccer skill actually a realistic long-term concern for your kid? Most people don't become professional athletes. I mean, it is literally a game, he shouldn't feel the need…

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Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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I sincerely hope you don't actually believe this. Reductionist statements like this which attempt to blame an entire generation for a world that few if any of them had any control over. "Boomers" tried to scrape together a life and provide for a family within the rules of the world where they lived. They elected people to solve the problems that they knew about at the time, just like every other generation.

"Boomers" is just shorthand for the older generation who treated the environment like a toilet, pillaged the welfare state, jailed anyone who wanted to get high in their free time and made hating/mocking LGBTQ people a national pastime (to name a few examples). I'd say #notallboomers but it's implied unless you're being willfully obtuse.

“Boomers” I suppose are responsible for passing the clean air and clean water act which had the effect of essentially ending pollution as we know it in the US.

They also essentially created the welfare state…

They were and are pretty bad on effective drug policy.

LGB discourse went off the rails when progressives added all the other letters. To be fair, it’s not just boomers who are deeply concerned with the political religion of queerness.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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> Situation wrt to teen mental health is similar in Europe, but there's a much smaller graduation debt. But Europe has far lower professional salaries than the US. Also economic conditions definitely have a big impact, I could finally buy a small flat after years of renting and it's such a great change to be able to make changes in your own home and buy your own things. My father did that at 23, not 30.

> But Europe has far lower professional salaries than the US. We don't have to pay ludicrous amounts for healthcare though, and rents are also way way WAY lower here than in the US - even London, Berlin and Munich are nowhere near US levels.

Uh, Munich has incredibly expensive house prices. It's over 1M Euros to buy for anything of a reasonable size. Developer salaries are around 65k. You can get a little cheaper by going to a neighbouring towns, but the stupidly high prices continue for many km. The main problem is the very low interest rates leading to crazy inflation.

Rents are a bit better, but compared to developer salaries it's much more expensive than the US. It's also extremely hard to find places to rent, and landlords are very picky about who they will let to.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…

I’ll counter that with the caveat that my kids are grade 5 and younger. We’re very involved in school and other activities - my wife is a PTO president and long time member, I coach youth sports and other community type programs. The kids we have seen mostly don’t engage with social media directly. But the ones who transition from cute 5-6 year olds to problematic 10-12 year olds have a key common factor. Tablets. Yo…

> Through lawsuits and reporting, I learned that my childhood Boy Scout Troop and church was infested with pedophiles.

It's really sad to see things like this. Boy Scouts was one of the best parts of my childhood. Both my parents were heavily involved - dad was the Scout Master, mom was the merit badge counselor for backpacking and other woodland activities, my younger sisters came on many of the trips.

It served as a healthy foil to my absolute infatuation with learning about technology.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…

Your argument seems more positioned around public education than it does social media. This seems to be the same problem, new generation. TV in the 50s. Video games in the 90s. Now smartphones.

Arguably TV was actually bad for kids. (And adults too, considering what kind of brain poisoning seems to accompany overconsumption of cable news).
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