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Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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so far out of touch, that somebody had to explain to them there are people in the world who are discriminated against, but aren't black. Sounds preposterous, but is not. I had a boss around 2000 who believed wholeheartedly that people brought from Africa to the United States were the only slaves that ever existed in history anywhere on Earth. This came up because someone noted in passing conversation that an annivers…
Not only that, but there are more than three times as many slaves TODAY as ever were in the transatlantic slave trade that is the only one the US knows exists.
That feels like a very misleading point. The world population is almost 8 billion, it was almost 1 billion in 1800 (per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population), so we decreased slavery as a precentage of the world by a lot, yet the total number of slaves has increased. It's tragic that there is modern slavery, but it was horrible the us did it, it's horrible that people want to minimize and argue we weren't so bad for having it, that the founding father's of the us were mostly slave owners.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#733It’s also inaccurate to call this language “inclusive.” In reality, you’re excluding most Americans who aren’t among the handful of mostly affluent, white, college educated people who talk like this. My Bangladeshi immigrant mom would have no idea what to do if a warning popped up telling her that she should use a different word than “mother.”
Hear hear. Latinx, Filipinx - how dare the whites invent terminology to refer to disadvantaged minorities, using incorrect grammatical constructions or letters not even in the language of the people you refer to. This is white cultural imperialism, full stop. Right or left, I don't care where it comes from - I know it when I smell it.
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#734> Emily Lipstein typed “Motherboard” (as in, the name of this website) into a document and Google popped up to tell her she was being insensitive: “Inclusive warning. Some of these words may not be inclusive to all readers. Consider using different words.” It’s amazing how a Fortune 500 company can release a product that chastises you for using the word “motherboard” because it has “mother” in it, while other people…
> “mainstream” on the left What connection is there between left/progressive thought and this particular brand of corporate speak?
Are you seriously not seeing how these "inclusive warnings" come from the left?
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#735This is sure to dismantle systemic racism. But in all seriousness I think this stuff is great. It pushes more people away from insane woke culture. I’m starting to see even the most progressive friends and colleagues pause and think twice about how cringeworthy all of this is. Let it happen.
I'm seeing that happen too --- there's been a very noticeable "migration" of left-leaning folk I know, towards the right; and many of these are actually the type of people that the whole "inclusiveness" thing is attempting to please.
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Well they're not trying to raise up men, they're trying to destroy any notion of gender, see "gender is a social construct".
I’d that were true, people wouldn’t lose their jobs over not using peoples preferred pronouns. It’s actually the opposite of what you say: increasing the number of genders and bullying people into accepting all of them as distinct
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> Amazon claims that Alexa isn't always listening too and/but/yet also that it'll wake up immediately when you say the right wake word Strictly Alexa, the device, is always listening in order to trigger on the wake word. It's just that audio doesn't get sent to Amazon until it hears a wake word (then it just streams the audio to Amazon to process it. locally it's only smart enough to listen for a wake word). This is…
You'd agree that this creates a hypertechnical situations where slight changes in the hardware or software create undetectable situations for non-technical consumers. For example, we do not know for certain that Alexa devices never stream audio when they have not yet processed the wake word. A device that you test it on may have a different policy from a device sold a year from now, yet the Internet (archives) will s…
That's very true, yeah. Can't speak for every Alexa, every version, the future, etc.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#738I wonder if this is an example of not knowing your audience (or rather assuming one's self represents a wider audience than it does). The people vouching for this at Google are likely product marketing managers, public relations folks, social media managers, etc. All they do is write corporate garbage all day, and much like we have "nit"s in PR's for formatting, variable names, etc; they likely have similar reviews t…
This explanation rings a lot more true to me than the rest of this thread. Everyone here seems to be looking into shadows for the woke gestapo, when I'd be willing to bet that this explanation is a lot closer to how this tool actually came to exist. I appreciate you adding to the conversation.
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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> “mainstream” on the left What connection is there between left/progressive thought and this particular brand of corporate speak?
Are you seriously not seeing how these "inclusive warnings" come from the left?
Let's put it this way: different people care about different things, caring about certain things can put someone in "the left" category. But who cares about this whitelist/blacklist/motherboard bullshit? Maybe it's a US thing (as I don't know anyone who thinks "blacklist" is offensive), but even so some commenters here say that they don't know many in the US that care about it.
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If you can (i.e. you don't fear persecution), please let them know that this was the reason. Part of the reason these things have taken off is that their proponents are very vocal, while the opponents prefer to just mind their own business.
I imagine the leadership are aware of how toxic and repellent this culture is -- despite, i'd imagine, having no clear strategy to reform it.
It's stunningly simple: fire all activists. If it triggers a "walkout", fire all of them too.