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Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by Kye »

victor106 wrote: post #709
sebmellen wrote: post #267

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The arrogance is hard to believe. > In 2018 she received a total of $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla, which represents a 400% payrise since 2008. On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask peopl…

from her Wikipedia page > Baker was trained as a lawyer. She coordinates business and policy issues. I don't know of any lawyers running a successful tech company.

They usually run for office instead.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by perryizgr8 »

phkahler wrote: post #38
selfhoster11 wrote: post #2

They should focus on saving Firefox. - Cut out all (or at the very least, most) initiatives that don't serve the goal of promoting Firefox's market share or sustainability going forward - Donate the major money drains that aren't Firefox to the Apache Foundation or another worthy custodian - Fire all inessential staff that don't want to work on Firefox. - Get a CEO/upper management that are in it for the passion, not…

>> We as a community, cannot afford to let Firefox languish until the only browsers in the world are Chromium derivatives. The diversity of truly independent browser engines is far too important to give up without a fight. There are a lot of people oh HN who agree with that but then use a different browser for whatever reason. I feel like these people are being very hypocritical and should use what they want to succe…

I want Firefox to succeed. But that doesn't mean I will use an inferior browser, especially when I feel the decision makers at Mozilla are out of sync.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by kinjba11 »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #389
xfitm3 wrote: post #294

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As someone who knew someone who worked there she is absolutely nuts and her thinking is beyond radical. She will destroy Mozilla if she doesn't step down. Assuming it's not too late already.

No, she is on the take from Google to keep Firefox as a shield against monopoly claims, while reducing the actual competitive threat.

Pretty sure Apple/Safari and Microsoft/Edge have the monopoly shield taken care of at this point. Firefox on its current trajectory will bleed to death slow enough for nobody to notice. Mozilla stopped innovating in the one product of theirs anybody cares about. I sort of wish Mozilla would die faster so the current executives bleeding it dry would move on, and hopefully someone who actually cares about more than the money could revive it.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by forgotmysn »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #2

They should focus on saving Firefox. - Cut out all (or at the very least, most) initiatives that don't serve the goal of promoting Firefox's market share or sustainability going forward - Donate the major money drains that aren't Firefox to the Apache Foundation or another worthy custodian - Fire all inessential staff that don't want to work on Firefox. - Get a CEO/upper management that are in it for the passion, not…

Assuming the board are unable or unwilling to salvage FF for the sake of Mozilla, would it be worth considering starting a new non-profit browser based on FF? A new organization without all that baggage? WaterWolf or something?

Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by smt88 »

Kye wrote: post #731
victor106 wrote: post #709

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from her Wikipedia page > Baker was trained as a lawyer. She coordinates business and policy issues. I don't know of any lawyers running a successful tech company.

They usually run for office instead.

...which makes sense. If someone is going to write, interpret, or enforce laws, you want them to have a deep understanding of the law.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by liveoneggs »

rpnx wrote: post #473

My thoughts on this are that every time I see a news piece about Firefox it's about "social justice", some code of conduct controversy, or something else utterly unimportant to web browser selection. Being "Open Source" does nothing for me when Firefox engages in the same crap as other closed source browsers, like Pocket. Mozilla also allowed social issues to take precedence over retaining good engineers. Whether you…

So many "assholes" in this thread! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHNB8IHfHdU

Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by [deleted] »

Isthatablackgsd wrote: post #443
notreallyserio wrote: post #318

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What is easy here? In Chrome, on macOS, it's command-` to switch windows and command-shift-m to open a new window in with a specific profile. Also, links always open in the profile that is currently in the foreground. Is that possible in Firefox? Last I heard it isn't, but I haven't checked in a while.

Yes, there is but I don't know if it works for macOS since it works for me in Windows. Set the profile you prefer to open for links as a default profile and make sure to tick the option to automatically use the default profile without opening the profile manager. Then for the second profile, you need to use the shortcuts for that with the argument like this firefox.exe -P " " And make sure you leave it as capitalized…

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would you save it?

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Post by tayo42 »

alex23478 wrote: post #139
tayo42 wrote: post #93

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I use firefox on android. Its frustrating at times. It doesn't integrate well with android stuff like opening up in apps I think. It takes me to the app store or doesnt even open in apps. Google stuff like looking at reviews doesn't work in firefox.

There's an addon for making the Google pages work as they do in Chrome: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/google-search...

Oh wow interesting, thanks! Cant believe this needs to even exist though...
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