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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by mgamache »

sparcpile wrote: post #713
wolverine876 wrote: post #693

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> before becoming president of Purdue, Daniels was governor of Indiana. His successor in that job was Mike Pence. Daniels was also a rising star in the GOP, so he's a competent politician who got closer than most to actually dealing with international relations. How is the governor of Indiana closer to dealing with international relations? I suspect the president of Purdue does it more, given the international nature…

It wasn't good. During his tenure, he had the university create a deal with Kaplan to brand Kaplan University as Purdue Global and get the Indiana legisture to pass a sweetheart law for it. The result is that Purdue's name as a very good engineering school is mud. https://tcf.org/content/commentary/purdue-global-got-irs-sta...

Really?

Its programs are among the top in the nation.

https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/AboutUs/FactsFigures/Ran....

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Post by satronaut »

tgb wrote: post #511
satronaut wrote: post #225

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"Don't tolerate lies, hypocrisy, or sophistry from our leaders even if they are nominally on 'our side'. ", This bugs me so much. The biden administration literally complained to MSM about the bad news they were getting. In a few days CNN came out with "Gas prices are coming down ", being still not as low as the Trump era. Reminds me of 1984 when Winston makes up an article about chocolate rations

I'm confused by your complaint. Gas prices heave generally been heading down recently as best as I can tell. Gasbuddy.com/charts

From your source, gas was an average of ~2.40 on jan 20th. Rite after biden gets in gas spikes, peaking around 3.40 end of october. Now it's around 3.20. Still up by 80c nationally. But CNN is saying "gas is going down" trying to give biden a favorable image, instead of saying "Gas is still way up because of the ESG policies of the biden administration"

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Post by marcosdumay »

eproxus wrote: post #697
gorgoiler wrote: post #76

> 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons A touch over dramatic, verging on smug given that it’s a nerd in-joke. (If you didn’t know, this HTTP status code is a tongue in cheek reference to the dystopian sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 where information is outlawed.) I could elaborate but unfortunately due to our safety and security policies I am unable to comment further. Your wellbeing is my number one priority.

It’s also quite ironic because they seem to claim that because their page is full of tracking cookies (what other reason to cite GDPR?).

Yeah, this is the wrong response code, but I guess there isn't one for "we want to harm you, but since this is illegal, we prefer to deny you service". Looks like a severe overlook from the IETF.

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Post by jahnu »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #158
jahnu wrote: post #101

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One of the best ways for those of us in the democratic West to combat this is to not tolerate when our own governments promote false narratives. This displays the virtues of our imperfect system better than anything else, imo. Don't tolerate lies, hypocrisy, or sophistry from our leaders even if they are nominally on 'our side'.

>one of the best ways for those of us in the democratic West to combat this is to not tolerate when our own governments promote false narratives I'm far more concerned about tolerating this behavior among ourselves. Politicians always lie and people have been complaining about it as far back as we have written record. This case involving these students is the same basic fact pattern (but without and abstractions betw…

I largely agree. My point about not tolerating it extends to how we behave towards each other. Perhaps even primarily so.

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Post by president »

This has been happening for a while now all across the globe. One of the most recent egregious cases happened to a student in Australia who was attacked by thugs associated with the Chinese consulate at a HK protest. His university took China's side and made his life a living hell.

Source: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/the-au...

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Post by frakkingcylons »

vmception wrote: post #190

Getting the actual opinion of anyone in China (or Hong Kong if you’re a worker and well integrated) is very difficult. There is a lot of reading between the lines necessary because of the network of reporting from other Chinese that’s worldwide. Note: those actual opinions are not necessarily “life is baaaad what a niiightmare”, they can be quite nuanced just like anywhere else. Something as simple as “I kind of like…

I’ve had regular contact with my relatives in FJ during the pandemic and there’s no lack of complaints. So I don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Post by BINGCHILLING »

star-trek-fleet wrote: post #534
Icko wrote: post #121

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Richer country, better quality of life, more personal freedoms. Not bizarre assumption at all.

> Richer country Trust me most students in US nowadays are family financial support. They are already rich. And the US do not often give enough working position for them (outside of tech, which h1b is not particularly friendly) > better quality of life This definitely is wrong. Those kids enjoyed a far better life in China than US. > more personal freedoms. Well, for what they want to do, they'll have more freedom...

> This definitely is wrong. Those kids enjoyed a far better life in China than US.

they can stay there then lol

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Post by Zigurd »

thegrimmest wrote: post #663
Zigurd wrote: post #35

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I was a Republican. I was always pro choice. I was always skeptical of cops. I thought the Soviet Union and then the rump empire under Putin was dangerous. I never felt "oppressed" by standards of decency. Maybe it's not about being a Republican.

I think it more depends on how you fall on the authoritarian/libertarian spectrum. As a libertarian myself, I certainly feel that my views are not welcome. I have often been accused of being a horrible person for holding a belief in what is essentially tolerance of intolerance, and voluntary cooperation.

I am estranged from libertarianism. Too many people self-assigning that label are against women's rights, voting rights, and are comfortable with the dictator in Russia. And this is before one gets to issues like Pareto optimal policies entrenching existing disadvantages.

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Post by beloch »

myth_drannon wrote: post #119

This happens in Canadian universities as well, Tibetan or Chinese students are harrased. Doesn't look like anything is done to prevent it. [ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/china-tibet-student-e... ]

Money is the root of the problem. Canadian universities depend heavily on tuition paid by foreign students. A huge proportion of those students are from China.

If Canadian universities take too tough a stance against this kind of behaviour they could find themselves, either individually or collectively, on the Chinese government's naughty list. Perhaps the degrees they confer might lose their recognition in China, or perhaps students will be discouraged from attending "naughty" universities.

If you look at Daniels' response, note that it deliberately skirts around the fact that this kind of targeted harassment is directly encouraged by the Chinese government. Even just mentioning China by name in his statement is flirting with trouble.

It's chilling to observe that academic freedom of North American universities can be so negatively impacted by a foreign power.

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Post by avgcorrection »

BoxOfRain wrote: post #711
chernevik wrote: post #479

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Well said: "In my world there's always a place for you; you can disagree with me; you can even insult me; I will not fire back because that is your freedom of expression, however In your world there's no place for me; you want to eliminate me and even my family from the world just because I disagree with your government or your ideology; this is puzzling isn't it?"

Beautifully put, what an excellent way to demonstrate what seperates the authoritarian mindset from the liberal mindset.

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