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A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Post by r-w »

cowvin wrote: post #618
gjm11 wrote: post #280

I tried a few searches. >: none of the search results appeared to have anything to do with Javascript pipe syntax. (Which doesn't exist yet, but it's under discussion.) Google gives a bunch of highly-relevant results. >: first result is a list of books about relativity, one of which is Reichenbach's "Philosophy of space and time"; good, but there's no real information there. Second is about Reichenbach but nothing to…

i don't know, people here like to complain about google, but google still works pretty well for me.

I was going to write a response, but this comment I found further down the page sort of communicates my perspective: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28552078

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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krapp wrote: post #229
xipho wrote: post #159

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> I searched "plumber Austin TX" in Google and got a map and list of company websites near me. I think you could have done this historically in a Yellow Pages phone book. My OP used "boring". A list of plumbers is boring, been done on dead wood. I'm not saying boring != !useful. > There are a lot of "top x y in z" list sites This is an understatement. I actually want to know the top x in y, to do that I need "rationa…

>Rational discourse is recognizable as well written, insightful, humble, reflective, self-countering, anecdotal etc. By "search is terrible" I mean with respect to finding this. I believe a search engine that ignores results based on superficial and aesthetic qualities like "modern web design" would be even worse in that regard, unless you're assuming no relevant discourse about any subject has taken place on the web…

> I believe a search engine that ignores results based on superficial and aesthetic qualities like "modern web design" would be even worse in that regard

I think you may be confused. No one's trying to replace Google here. The idea is to have another option for when Google craps out on you. And if you find that Google almost always craps out on you, then hey, maybe you're in the 5–10% who have just found their new default search engine :-)

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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mda wrote: post #574
Ygg2 wrote: post #95

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"I haven't seen a black swan, ergo it's not real." I've been burned by this decline in the past. From creepy results i.e. first suggestion before typing was something I spoke near the Android and I never searched for before; to not finding what I was searching for before successfully, Google has started declining.

It would be nice if you provided a few real examples so that we would see how Google was so fantastic and found everything magically but then went to shit.

Read this comment from up the page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28552078

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Post by r-w »

tentacleuno wrote: post #538
jevgeni wrote: post #531

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But what’s their UVP? I’d say quick and relevant search results. And that seems to be constantly degrading.

Well, the unique value proposition is their gigantic index, really fast search and a bunch of other things. I'm not sure about the quality of the results, I just use DuckDuckGo these days, but IMO the unique technical advancements are pretty unique to Google.

> I just use DuckDuckGo these days

Then w.r.t. quality of results, you're just using Bing: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...

Re: A search engine that favors text-heavy sites and punishes modern web design

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Post by mda »

r-w wrote: post #733
mda wrote: post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice if you provided a few real examples so that we would see how Google was so fantastic and found everything magically but then went to shit.

Read this comment from up the page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28552078

I read it. It doesn't offer any proof, nor it is a good example at all.
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