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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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"people should stop using accusations of bigotry as a weapon to silence people" Huh? Are you seriously calling someones words who feels victimized, a weapon? Are you seriously holding fear of actual violence to an unsubstantiated standard? "If you want to call someone a bigot, its pretty important to make sure you are right about it." Please show me one other form of bigotry accusation you hold to the same standard.…

>Huh? Are you seriously calling someones words who feels victimized, a weapon? Are you seriously holding fear of actual violence to an unsubstantiated standard? The idea of figuratively describing something as a weapon isn't new or unusual. I'm not even sure what you mean by the second sentence. I was talking about people defaulting to claims of bigotry at any sign of criticism. If every criticism of Israel, even leg…

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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Live by the sword, die by the sword. That said, firing him, like they did with Damore would have been more consistent. Because everyone is under arbitration agreements that always benefit the company, vs the courts where you might have a shot at justice, they have no incentive to do that. As repugnant as his past anti-semitic rant was, people change and sometimes say and do stupid things. In a sane world this guy wou…

I don’t see how his words based on the article were anti Semitic. They were anti Israel. And I find that you and everyone here and at google are having a hard time distinguishing between the two. Further based on the other comment to this post he was quite an activist. Fighting for rights of the racially oppressed and in minority. He went against white people and Israel? He is not racist. He is just anti majority dom…

It seems that many people have difficulty making this crucial distinction. That's why after every Israeli military campaign there is a spike in anti-semitic incidents all over the world. We just need more education! You are free to hurl the most libelous, disgusting and vicious accusations at Jewish people. Just make sure you call them Israeli. Because that's acceptable.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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China vs the Uighurs and Tibetans? India vs Pakistanis? Pakistan vs Indians? Russia vs Chechnya? Spain vs the Basque people? Canada in the 80s vs native people (we had an article just the other day)? The US vs black people? Plenty of countries get criticised for their treatment of minorities when they do something wrong.

You're making my point. China is literally wiping out the Uighurs. There's no hair-splitting or propagandizing about it. They're committing actual genocide. But besides a few mentions here and there, the international community is doing nothing about it. If it were at all proportional, the stories and condemnation should be in the news every day. But instead, we see more media coverage in a single day of Israel's cou…

The news gets bored. It's why settlements don't make the news but it makes the news when it rises to armed conflict. Israel has already been pushed out of the news cycle by Belarus here.

There were plenty of news stories about the Uighurs last year.

The international community is not doing much about Israel either.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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>AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of diversity” for any organization when he wrote it, but only many years later. He was literally a founding senior director for "equity in computing" at Georgia Tech and was a national strategy advisor to the Obama administration for bringing "equity and justice" to STEM (when he wrote this blog post). Please update your post as you're spreading FUD. >AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of di…

> He was literally a founding senior director for "equity in computing" at Georgia Tech and was a national strategy advisor to the Obama administration for bringing "equity and justice" to STEM (when he wrote this blog post). Neither of those is “global head of diversity”. > Please update your post as you're spreading FUD. No, I’m not and I see no need to update my post. If the upthread post were updated to refer to…

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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Only the purest of the pure can lead a diversity effort. And it doesn’t count unless you were pure from the beginning. Growing to overcome past problems is not sufficient.

if you hang around long enough, you can watch the woke eat the woke. what is "pure" changes, and some who have delighted in getting scalps in the past will have theirs taken by someone else once the goalposts change. i'm thinking there is a decent chance trans-racialism will eventually become woke

What do you mean by "trans-radicalism will eventually become woke"?

EDIT misread "racialism" as "radicalism"

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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About [0], in Portuguese we have abolished the usage of the term "race" for human beings for exactly that reason. Now we exclusively use the term "ethnicity". Edit: What about the downvotes? Are people going crazy?

Which is why Brazil is such a beautiful post-racial utopia?

Using more precise terms in language has nothing to do with being an utopia. Really, as a native Portuguese speaker it sounds really weird to ask about the race of a human being.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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“If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.” And hey, great news, now we have every line written by every man, woman and child automatically captured and archived forever in an easy to search dossier. Someone who wrote a racist or anti-Semitic comment in 2007 could have evolved to deeper understanding and to a more compassionate worldview…

>Someone who wrote a racist or anti-Semitic comment in 2007 could have evolved to deeper understanding Perhaps but i don't feel they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

>Perhaps but i don't feel they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

14 years is a long time really, there are people who get the benefit of a doubt for murder after 14 years.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Wow, 14 years ago. I hope the current progressive correct-thinkers realize the takes they make today have to hold up over a decade from now, otherwise the next wave is going to cancel them.

To be fair, we don't know who made the decision to reassign him. It might have been a HR decision in preemptive fear of bad press instead of an actual demand by any group. Also, solidarity for palestinians is pretty widespread among progressives and left-wings in general. I think a push to cancel him for this entry would more likely come from right-wing, pro-Israel groups if anything.

His old posts are more than just solidarity with Palestinians or criticism of the Israeli government (which obviously should never get anyone fired).

> If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself. Self defense is undoubtedly an instinct, but I would be afraid of my increasing insensitivity to the suffering others.

It’s really hard to read stuff like that and not feel attacked as a Jewish person. I know it’s an old post and people change, but I don’t want people walking away from this thread thinking someone lost their job for merely being critical of Israel. That just feeds the cycle of distrust and makes it harder to discuss.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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What I have learned in recent years is how shockingly accepting of antisemitism people apparently are on both sides of aisle. Growing up in a prominently Jewish neighborhood in Minnesota I never really encountered it until maybe ten years ago. The fact that he was just shifted rather than fired in this political environment speaks volumes.

How so? The norm in human society is to accept that people can grow and learn with time. The fact someone can be fired or shifted because of something like this said 14 years ago speaks volumes of the power of cancel culture and says nothing about antisemitism.

The fact that he felt qualified to lead a diversity team (whatever that might mean), with the knowledge that he authored such an article speaks volumes about his moral compass and lack of conscience.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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I have met Jews (Israelis to be more precise), Russians and Americans. All have been very nice people. But I think it could be said about all of them as nations to have to some degree "insatiable appetite for war and killing" considering their recent history. Naturally the Russians would label me a russophobe for saying that. Not sure what Americans would label me. I also understand the position Israelis are in and I…

People != nations. Conflating the two is bad because you start blaming people for the sins of their nation and that is how you get to dehumanization.

I completely agree. Nations are aggregate of people and in addition are not always in full control of the state that represents them.

But would US have started latest wars without popular support of Americans?

To some degree everyone is guilty.

Regardless I agree based on the comments about the culprit other options that his opinions add racist overtone and perhaps his words should be evaluated in the larger context.

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