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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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>It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. I got a rental car recently and they gave me a bright red pickup because it was the fastest option. I was surprised by the good vibes I got from all the other pickup drivers, lol. It's like I got inducted into a secret club for a day with a lot of waves and thumbs up. A woman went up to my group in a parking lot and said something like "Hell yea…

I'm bought a Tundra mainly because I needed something tow my boat (my old 4-runner was just too small). But, once I got used to sitting up high, having all the space, and having a full sized truck bed for hauling whatever, it's pretty nice.

Same. 2012 Tundra, 140K miles now, bought it new.

Great truck.

Went to surf toyota.com today thinking maybe it's time to get another one, almost exactly the same.

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I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.

Unfortunately compact pickups aren’t really a thing any more. As a homeowner and a parent this would be a great vehicle for me — having the utility of a truck bed. Not everyone that owns a home does work on it themselves but trucks are very useful. Today my only options are rent a truck or put a trailer hitch on my van and pull a trailer when I need to haul stuff. That’s so much more hassle.

Ford ranger is back Chevy Colorado and gm canyon Tacoma ...

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.

The same could be said of sports cars - most people don't race them or push them anywhere near their potential. But selling cars has always been the business of selling a story as much as it has been about selling a transportation technology. This goes back to the earliest days when cars were hulking machines owned by the uber-wealthy. > or lumberjacks. Hah, I bet a puny pickup truck isn't very useful for lumberjacks…

Loggers use pickups to haul fuel to their heavy equipment, and to commute on sometimes quite rough logging roads and muddy log sort yards

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…

> It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. The vehicles are gigantic and are capable of carrying thousands of pounds but are operated by people who may not be able to handle something considerably smaller without getting into an accident. Suburban neighborhoods a…

In my experience suburbanites in large SUVs are much more reckless than pickup drivers I encounter. Obviously an anecdote but they tend to be far more oblivious to their surroundings.

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American vehicles had a history of poor quality control and reliability but it's improved in the last 20 years. F150 is the #1 selling truck in USA in Canada. Our 2011 F150 has been very reliable, mechanically, but the audio wiring is broken in interesting ways. My buddy's older F150 has exactly the same issue. Otherwise it's been trouble free.

For any vehicle I generally ask myself two questions. #1 - How long has this engine design been used? #2 - How long has this transmission design been used? Accessory / electrical problems are annoying, but fixable. Powertrain problems are... the vehicle itself.

A friend had to have “the wiring harness” on his 2019 f350 replaced, it was 10k took 5 weeks and would have been at his cost if he didn’t have the extended warranty

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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> It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. The vehicles are gigantic and are capable of carrying thousands of pounds but are operated by people who may not be able to handle something considerably smaller without getting into an accident. Suburban neighborhoods a…

In my experience suburbanites in large SUVs are much more reckless than pickup drivers I encounter. Obviously an anecdote but they tend to be far more oblivious to their surroundings.

Very good point and a sign that I’m prejudiced against trucks. There are bad drivers in every category and it’s unfair for me to target only one group.

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Story from when we moved to Montana 20 years ago: We buy a freezer at Costco. Checking out, we ask for details on delivery. Costco employee says "Oh, we don't deliver". We had been used to Costco in CA which at the time would deliver large items. I ask "Well, how do people get big things like freezers home". Costco person says "Easy, just put it in your pickup, we'll help you load". "Hmm...we don't own a pickup". Cos…

>We buy a freezer at Costco. Checking out, we ask for details on delivery. Costco employee says "Oh, we don't deliver". We had been used to Costco in CA which at the time would deliver large items. I every one owns a pickup, why don't you simply rent one (à la Airbnb, e.g with GetAround) for just a day? I've never owned a vehicle (other than a bicycle, but I live in Paris) but can easily rent any kind of car/truck/va…

> can easily rent any kind of car/truck/van

This works when you're the outlier. If we are ever successful in making cars the exception rather than the rule, it will be far more difficult to just go rent one on demand.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Ironically, the frunk on electric trucks is a game-changer. Complementing the bed with an enclosed, waterproof, secure place to carry things (and no mucking around with insecure bed covers) is a killer feature. No more springing for a crew cab just to carry groceries in the rear seats. In terms of practical carrying capacity this dominates an SUV.

Oh yeah, I'm totally into that. It's perfect for a grocery run and you don't need to do anything to keep it from rolling around the bed of the truck or get rained on.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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There are also some previous related threads:

The Electric Ford F-150 Can Power Your House for Three Days on a Single Charge - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27232576 - May 2021 (14 comments)

Ford unveils the F-150 Lightning, its all-electric pickup truck - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27218029 - May 2021 (88 comments)

How Ford Built an Electric F-150 That Can Do Real Work for $40K - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27217386 - May 2021 (7 comments)

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