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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

jtbayly wrote: post #694
Miner49er wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The person who did this calls themselves a hacker. It's just whoever wrote this article that decided to call them a "security researcher".

In other words, the media really is as liberal as is claimed by some? How does that change things? The article calls them security researchers. In the title ! Isn't that an example of something that HN is tacitly acknowledging to be true by leaving the title alone?

Things have changed in the last few days. I think what we're seeing is a form of information warfare specifically designed to trigger a strong response in people, either positive or negative.

Additional interesting things: the DOSing of Tor v3, suppression of all Trumpian sites, the blackout of Pakistan, the massive volatility of monero.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by objectivetruth »

jtbayly wrote: post #694
Miner49er wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The person who did this calls themselves a hacker. It's just whoever wrote this article that decided to call them a "security researcher".

In other words, the media really is as liberal as is claimed by some? How does that change things? The article calls them security researchers. In the title ! Isn't that an example of something that HN is tacitly acknowledging to be true by leaving the title alone?

> In other words, the media really is as liberal as is claimed by some?

This seems like flame-bait trolling, unless the conservative cries about "liberal media" were referring to... cybernews.com this whole time?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by klyrs »

andromeduck wrote: post #705
tomp wrote: post #471

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Based on the screenshot you linked to, their "moderation" categories are "spam", "ads", "impersonation", "defamation", "nudity", "pornography", "illegal", "terrorism", "trademark" and "threat". Can you please explain how they use that to "ensure ideological conformity in their posts"?

Is there a legal reason to have defamation up there? It seems like a pretty funny one to have for a free speech platform - the others are more understandable.

Defamation is not free speech, it's illegal.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by whimsicalism »

chalst wrote: post #730
whimsicalism wrote: post #674

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I've reported plenty of people saying awful things about killing black people & jews on Twitter. It's definitely there.

I've had a good experience with flagging bad posts and users: about 3/4 of the time the accounts I report get suspended. I only go after the really nasty accounts, though.

I have had poor experience with suspension, good experience with removal.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by SergeAx »

liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

How did you get from knowing about existing of moderation system to conclusion about using it to ensure ideological conformity? I don't see a "Wrong ideology" button on screenshot you've linked to.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by mkl »

hertzrat wrote: post #720
liminal wrote: post #475

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In the tweet text it says "all new users start out shadowbanned until enough of their post get approved for rightthink by their user moderators"

Hackernews starts you off shadowbanned too. It’s a way to ward off spammers and bots. I know because this account started off shadow banned for 1-2 weeks until I had made 5-10 posts. Edit: Why in earth is this getting downvoted so heavily? Every new account everyone I know ever made was shadow banned at first

HN doesn't start users shadow banned - just look for the green new-account usernames. Your account didn't start shadow banned either. Here's your first comment, visible to all: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25410162

New accounts are more likely to get shadow banned, especially if they post many comments with links or post inflammatory remarks.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by neartheplain »

generalk wrote: post #714
neartheplain wrote: post #505

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One group of people were protesting/rioting because police continue to suffer little consequence for murdering Black folks, despite years of effort at reform. If "protesting/rioting" includes gunning down unarmed black kids in the street (third link above), count me out. This is a highly flammable topic and we seem unlikely to agree, so I'd prefer we pause here.

I'd challenge the assertion you're making here -- again, it is reductive to reduce the entirety of the nationwide protests against police murders to a handful of cherry-picked instances of violence. You're doing that and then dismissing the entire issue because of it, which is intellectually dishonest, which you already know. You aren't giving the same treatment to the the other side here -- you're not saying "if kee…

trying to discredit the nationwide BLM protests by painting them as violent

I’m only trying to discredit the violence, as I made clear in my original comment.

If you’ll casually assign me false motives and claim I’m “intellectually dishonest,” I see no reason to continue our discussion.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by hertzrat »

mkl wrote: post #736
hertzrat wrote: post #720

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hackernews starts you off shadowbanned too. It’s a way to ward off spammers and bots. I know because this account started off shadow banned for 1-2 weeks until I had made 5-10 posts. Edit: Why in earth is this getting downvoted so heavily? Every new account everyone I know ever made was shadow banned at first

HN doesn't start users shadow banned - just look for the green new-account usernames. Your account didn't start shadow banned either. Here's your first comment, visible to all: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25410162 New accounts are more likely to get shadow banned, especially if they post many comments with links or post inflammatory remarks.

When you make a new account and view a thread You post in for the first week to so, gour comments are absent absent unless you are logged in. That’s what a shadow ban is. It can be removed and it happens to every new hn account I’ve ever seen. It gets removed after a week or so. That “inflammatory” post about a game prototype you linked was not visible for even a second in that thread until a week or two had passed

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by goatgate »

joshstrange wrote: post #641
sdenton4 wrote: post #479

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This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

I discovered this yesterday trying to respond to a post on r/conservative about the CCP enforcing ideological conformity. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by generalk »

neartheplain wrote: post #628
hannasanarion wrote: post #525

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A shooting happening in a protest area is not the same as armed protesters attacking the seat of the federal government chanting their intention to murder politicians.

Please don't use the passive voice [0] to intentionally obscure a crime's perpetrator. Antonio Mays Jr. was not killed near a protest by a random passerby. He was murdered by armed "anti-fascist" protestors. They shot him in the face with a rifle. It's on camera. The killers audibly confessed to the murder. See this link [1] for the clips, if you must. The footage is disturbing. [0] https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/c…

  > He was murdered by armed "anti-fascist" protestors.
It appears that that link has not been confirmed, as of an August 2020 WaPo article[0], which points out that many of the deaths at the protests can not be conclusively linked to the demonstrators.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/26/almost-no...

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