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Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by jack2222 »

tomerico wrote: post #401

What's amazing to me is how little of a difference they have between the regular and pro models: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ It basically boils down to a few relatively minor camera features perhaps except for the addition of a 2x camera (The other differences are Lidar sensor, 60fps HDR recording at vs 30fps, and saving in RAW). It looks like they think that just creating the impression that the pro model…

Given they both have the A14 chip and seemingly no other differences in their innards, the fact the pro can do 60fps Dolby digital vs the regular phones 30fps feels like a lame software lock?

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by tgb »

toxik wrote: post #721
FoomFries wrote: post #616

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Magnetic force falls off pretty quickly - a phone case can cause enough of a difference to make that force lackluster. Apparently, it seems, enough to put magnets in the case itself to better maintain that force. Additionally, it looks like the goal is to let your phone be held vertically, while attached only to the magnet. This makes sense for car mounts, where you may want to mount your GPS via magnet and charge it…

How fast you ask? Why it’s an inverse square law! Like gravity. 1/r^2.

At the risk of being pedantic (or misremembering college classes), there's more to it than that. First, at the relevant distance scales, the magnets aren't point particles, they have an extent and very close to that surface it should be 1/r. Secondly, magnets are dipoles and at greater distances the two poles cancel out to first order and you have a 1/r^4.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by freehunter »

jonplackett wrote: post #478
christoph wrote: post #60

They're bringing back MagSafe for iPhone... can we have it back for the laptops please?

It's pretty dumb to call it magsafe. With a laptop it really did keep your laptop safe from getting pulled off a desk when you got up to get a coffee and walked through the cord like an idiot. What exactly is 'safe' about this? It's just... mag.

>it really did keep your laptop safe

In my experience MagSafe never did that, so it’s likely to be the same on the iPhone as on the Macbooks. Most times when I tripped over the cable, it pulled the cable in a straight line. Unfortunately I can lift my Macbook with the MagSafe cable by pulling in a straight line, so it never actually broke apart the way it was intended. Also unfortunately, it breaks apart very easily if you push up or down, which happens frequently when the laptop is sitting on my lap.

So it would unplug itself constantly in normal use, but still pull the Macbook off the table when I tripped on the cable. It’s still better than nothing, but in my experience MagSafe never worked the way it was advertised. Especially as the Macbooks got lighter.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ashtonkem »

q3k wrote: post #714
samatman wrote: post #705

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Sure is. Problem is that Apple just isn't nimble enough to do anything about it. Everything important about these phones was set in place before there was a pandemic.

There's nothing forcing them to release new phones now instead of delaying and releasing a better product.

There’s a good chance that some of the production pipelines for parts began spooling up months ago. Producing that many phones is a huge undertaking with longer lead times than most people imagine, I imagine that they’d lose billions, and they’d risk releasing a “pandemic-friendly” phone once the pandemic is actually over.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by ashtonkem »

pantelisk wrote: post #617
leokennis wrote: post #579

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Apart from that, it’s just not an aesthetically pleasing photo. Some dude in crocs?

sandals and socks. high fashion uses multiple sources. Sometimes its inspired by nature, sometimes scifi, sometimes its inspired by traditional internet cringe! Interesting pic. I think it tries to show the hdr, dynamic rage of shadows + cleanliness even though the person is in motion.

Forget the fashion, it’s just not a very interesting image visually. It’s not very well composed, lit, or interesting.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by samatman »

riantogo wrote: post #730
samatman wrote: post #709

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So there are only two possibilities here: you have a USB-C charger, or you don't. If you do, like I do, then you don't buy one. If you don't, then you buy one: Apple sells them, everyone else sells them. There's nothing to talk about: I've thrown my last two included chargers in a box, where they languish next to my Lightning-cable-equipped EarPods. I'm unlikely to get a new phone in this cycle, but if I did, the dif…

Then why include the cable? Apple sells them, everyone else sells them. You are missing the point here. A better solution is to put something like this in the box: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B079LYHNSR/

Cables work harden and eventually fail. I've never had a cable last as long as a device, or even up to the next upgrade.

But if they took them out in the next iteration, I'd shrug, I have plenty at home.

This is Apple we're talking about. They'll sell you dongles all day, but include one? Not a chance. Apple said it's USB-C time at least four years ago, end of. I don't expect them to ever release a new product with a USB-A port on it.

That would be another accessory I don't need because I have plenty, and also, because I barely use them anymore.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by samatman »

q3k wrote: post #714
samatman wrote: post #705

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure is. Problem is that Apple just isn't nimble enough to do anything about it. Everything important about these phones was set in place before there was a pandemic.

There's nothing forcing them to release new phones now instead of delaying and releasing a better product.

Sure.

Apple could not release a new iPhone in time for the holidays.

That's a thing they could do.

Why would they ever do that though? Like ever.

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by freehunter »

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #15
sushicalculus wrote: post #11

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I have an iPhone11. My phone says it connects to 5G already, so I’m actually confused by this launch. Why would iOS tell me I’m connected to 5G? I’ll be honest that I’m unfamiliar with this space

Telecom companies renamed some 4G networks 5G because they technically fall within the standard.

Which is silly because even most 4G networks (LTE) don’t technically fall within the original standard of 4G. ITU actually lowered the standard of 4G to meet the limitations of LTE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)).

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by alistairSH »

philihp wrote: post #678
cmckn wrote: post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

> Why not flush surface contacts? Cases then need to have an exposed area for charging, and the surface contacts lower the weather resistance.

and the surface contacts lower the weather resistance

Relative to USB-C or Lightning? I think the question was "why do a Lightning port AND fake-wireless instead of just flush surface contact?"

Re: iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro

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Post by devenblake »

poisonborz wrote: post #699
cmckn wrote: post #581

Let’s talk about the return of MagSafe! It seems...kinda dumb. Instead of plugging in a lightning cable, I can now stick a hockey puck to the back of my phone? The “safe” in MagSafe came from its “yankability” without sending your device flying. But if my phone is laying on top of a hockey puck...it’s gonna go flying if I trip on the cable. Why couldn’t we fill in the lightning port and use flush surface contacts, li…

Besides the convenience, it must be a way for Apple to eventually drop the charging port completely, maybe even with the next version. No police data tampering, but also no jailbreaks, a physically walled device.

....Further incentivizing the fascists to figure out how to either force Apple to give them a wireless backdoor or figure out a wireless backdoor for themselves...
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