Siri on macOS freezes when I say “call dad” while works great on iOS.
Siri, What Time Is It in London?
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#732For fun,
me: Hey Google, spell Elon Musk's son's name
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#733The fact that there isn't a feedback mechanism to let the Siri team know that it responded incorrectly tells me everything I need to know. Until they have real metrics around how often Siri fails they will continue to think that their correct response rate is great.
I'm just waiting for my toddler to start repeating "Hey Siri, nobody was talking to you."
My preschooler does that whenever I’m working with a tool that requires me to bend my wrist backwards and the watch-Siri activates.
“Sorry, could you say that again?”
Nobody asked for you to interrupt my chopping, Siri.
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#734Siri doesn't know that my front door is called "FRONT DOOR". I only have one smart lock, which works perfectly, and it is called "FRONT DOOR" in HomeKit. When I ask Siri about my FRONT DOOR she responds that she cannot find it. When I ask Siri about the status of my DOOR, she responds with "The FRONT DOOR is locked/unlocked". I'll then say 'Alright Siri you literally just used the phrase "FRONT DOOR" five seconds ago…
The people who cut my grass are in my phonebook, under, let's say "Lawn Cutting Corp".
If I say "Siri, call lawn cutting corp", she'll say "I'm sorry, I can only call a single person at a time."
If I say "Siri, call lawn corp", then it immediately opens the phone and says "Dialing lawn cutting corp."
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#735Ranking and NLP aren't easy. If you are asking a slightly related question (for example, "What is the weather in London"), and if you are living at some place where the nearest major town is called London, but is not London in England, you would expect it to give you the weather in "your" London. However, it you are asking for the time in a particular city, then the ranking should of course consider whether the timez…
> A simple "Which London?" could've removed the ambiguity and given Siri the opportunity to learn something about that particular person (that London, England is more important to him than London in Canada). IMO I would be very disappointed if Siri started asking clarifying questions at a significantly higher rate. Siri is already a bit too chatty, and I never feel like having an extended conversation with her. I’d r…
> Siri is already a bit too chatty, and I never feel like having an extended conversation with her.
Tell me about it. I have to unpair my bluetooth headphones every day, for stupid reasons that aren't Siri's fault. But when I say "Siri, open bluetooth preferences", it parses my command on screen VERY quickly, and then slowly enunciates "Okay! Let's take a look at your bluetooth settings." I'm just tapping my foot and waiting for her to quit talking.
Of course, then, 1 out of 3 times it takes me to the wrong settings page. Because if Settings has been opened recently, it can't deep link from Siri. /shrug
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#736> Bing got it right, with bonus of analog clock.
I tried Bing and wow, the search UX is pretty awesome, it's like pixel copy of Google nowadays, they got the sign in button on right top corner, a image search icon on the right of search bar, and images of London on right side of page etc. But I just haven't been using Bing for years. Am I going to use Bing? Probably not, unless Google becomes unstable, which I don't foresee. For a commodity (free) Internet service like search engine, foster user habit is the key for adoption - if you got a piece of mind in users, they will stick around. Typing a different url is just counter productive since it has to deter mussel memory.
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#737Might as well comment, first employee at Siri here. This result “maybe” should provide ambiguity resolution, but where does it stop. The she/he who compared it to Google was right on. Siri provides singular results in most cases vs multiple search style results. We did use geo for locality based results in the past. This would solve the problem the OP mentioned, not sure if they call location for these requests now. The other person who mentioned we can’t/couldn’t train on data is correct too. Again, privacy first. Be proud, Apple cares a lot. When the Siri commercials hit (No one told us there would be commercials) when we launched, we got decimated, and couldn’t debug the issues, user utterances were not allowed to be logged. Luckily, after much sleep deprivation, one of my engineers (love you Stu) said, “hey, aren’t they running commercials” to all our surprise. We convinced the privacy team to let us log word parts. Then we started to see words that were present in the commercials. Fun fact, also happened when Tom Cruise was presenting at the Academy Awards. We had millions+ asks all at the same time, again word parts. “height”, “tom”, “foot”, etc.
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#738Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of when I worked at Yahoo, for not very long in the early 2000s. Yahoo had a consumer product called My Yahoo, a customisable home page with various feeds in it, and at the time they also had a My Yahoo Enterprise Edition, which they tried to sell to companies to serve as an intranet home page. I worked (in a junior sort of way) on the European deployments of MYEE. Anyway, one of our customers - representi…
If this had happened at some of the other places I have worked, the CEO would have made all the developers stay in the office until the problem was fixed. Why did no one care?
That sounds like pretty bad places to work. And very bad internal processes.
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#739Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That it gets it wrong, ever, is too much for me. The first time I ever had to repeat myself getting directions on the road I was done. How can you stand to deal with humans?
Humans are so many orders of magnitude better at comprehension that your comment feels a bit disingenuous.
I was replying to the parent comment that said that basically any errors were unacceptable, and that ever having to repeat himself was a deal breaker. This seems like a ridiculous position to me given that, as you point out, humans are much better at comprehension, and even they can't hit this standard.
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#740Siri doesn't know that my front door is called "FRONT DOOR". I only have one smart lock, which works perfectly, and it is called "FRONT DOOR" in HomeKit. When I ask Siri about my FRONT DOOR she responds that she cannot find it. When I ask Siri about the status of my DOOR, she responds with "The FRONT DOOR is locked/unlocked". I'll then say 'Alright Siri you literally just used the phrase "FRONT DOOR" five seconds ago…
All these speech assistants are almost stateless, aren't they? I mean, they can ask you questions and go into a listen-for-an-answer state, but, at least last time I tried, you can't have a conversation about your conversation with them and improve their comprehension of anything. It's like talking to a command line, or those old Palm Pilots you had to learn a special alphabet to scribble on. It's quite interesting t…
You can‘t even have the „thank you“ „you‘re welcome“ part of the dialogue.