Spotify to Apple: Time to Play Fair

Post by covercash » Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 11:20 PM UTC

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Spotify has already turned off the ability for new accounts to pay to upgrade to a premium account inside their iOS app last year. You pay for your account on Spotify's own web site, which bypasses Apple getting any cut at all. https://support.spotify.com/us/account_payment_help/subscrip... Netflix has done the same thing. https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8471988/spotify-... In my book, the problem is that…

> In my book, the problem is that you are not allowed to provide a link to your payment website inside your app. This is especially damaging to small companies. Most people have heard of Spotify, Netflix, Pandora, etc. So it's somewhat natural for them (if not a bit akward) to go to the website if they can't get premium in the app. But for small companies that connection isn't immediately obvious. In my company for i…

Post by booleandilemma » Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 11:24 PM UTC

Post by Grustaf » Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 11:27 PM UTC

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That’s like demanding newpapers pay full price for ad space on their own pages. Just absurd. What does it even mean, Apple owns Apple Music.

Not absurd. Different departments in the same company have budgets of their own. If a department wants to buy an ad from their own paper, it should affect their remaining budget, just as it should show up on the Ad department's revenue.

Post by caf » Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 11:36 PM UTC

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Apple did the same thing to Kindle for iPhone back when it launched. We submitted the original version to Apple with a fully functioning store built into it—and were then stuck in submission limbo. Two weeks later, Apple announces their intent to build in-app purchasing. The kicker: Apple wanted a 30% cut of every book sold on the store …and at the same time, had negotiated with book publishers that the publishers MU…

> Kindle for iPhone You put a walled garden... in another walled garden. On a more serious note: I get it; among Apple users are the most happily paying people that you can find on this planet and if you have a product you want to make it available to them. No wonder they think it their right to take a massive 30% cut.

Post by covercash » Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 11:41 PM UTC

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Most(every?) app that I’ve signed up for requires an email address. Some apps then send a verification or welcome email. If you mention and link to paid subscription upgrades in that email, will Apple pull your app?

Will people actually read the email? Will they remember it at the time they actually want to upgrade their account? (An "email me a payment link" button would almost certainly get rejected by Apple)