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Post by jstarfish »

chrisseaton wrote: post #684
withdavidli wrote: post #563

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can go horribly wrong quickly. How do you deal with the public going after the wrong people? Does the poster take responsibility for all harm done? This is what Reddit tried to do with the Boston bombing. How do you handle deep fakes?

How do you deal with the police going after the wrong people?

While injustices do happen, the police are more accountable than an internet mob stalking your family and harassing your employer because you were incorrectly identified as a mail thief in a public and permanent forum.

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Post by nicoburns »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #712
yardie wrote: post #689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except he’d be dead and the perp would have 2 guns. Why is the solution to more gun violence more guns?

Not necessarily, there are instances where both perpetrator and victim are armed and the perpetrator walks away because of it.

Really? Because pretty much the only situation in which I'd be tempted to shoot another person is if they also had a gun (otherwise they're pretty likely to shoot me).

If I'm unarmed, then I'm likely to be safe, even if I do get robbed.

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Post by airstrike »

mdpopescu wrote: post #621
nwsm wrote: post #612

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Why do police refuse to look into it? More important cases? Not as easy to find them guilty as it seems?

They're rational. If they look into it, they have to actually work. If they don't, there is zero disadvantage for them. Why WOULD they look into it?

Because of accountability. If enough people start complaining, this becomes an issue to politicians. But there aren't enough people complaining.

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Post by prdonahue »

will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

Would have gone to a news outlet to try to get them to pick up the story. Someone will write it, will put pressure on the department, and you'll get your video.

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Post by belorn »

iamdave wrote: post #578
blueboo wrote: post #539

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If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Yes, it's a "rabbit hole [we're] not sure we're prepared to go down". We're not prepared. We're going down it

If we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way, then we're OK with passing the buck to the unqualified. Post hoc ergo propter hoc make for valid public policy it does not. What source do you point to that we as a society are OK with qualified law enforcement looking the other way?

Just to take two examples in the news from the last few months here in Sweden. The police has announced that they will not investigate illegal workers in the construction industry next year, because if they did they would find crime and then that department would not have any time left to investigate other industries.

It is also official policy to not investigate theft below of $500, unless special circumstances. Because of this many stores has refused to file police reports, which the state statisticians then complained on national news since that limits their ability to make accurate reports to the politicians on how much crime exist.

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Post by jstarfish »

pasbesoin wrote: post #544
will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

I was burgled some years ago. The officers who responded, when I got home and found this, were attentive. The detective subsequently assigned the case? Not much. Even though, in warning my neighbors, I discovered that there was then a rash of burglaries occurring in the neighborhood. In part, I understood this. While the personal loss was significant to me, the dollar amount was only a few thousands that insurance co…

They're also more interested in resolution if controlled substances were stolen during the theft.

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Post by gnicholas »

dv_dt wrote: post #500
tivert wrote: post #256

If you're concerned about package thieves, just buy an outdoor cabinet and put it next to your door with a note asking that packages be placed in it. I use an Ikea Josef: https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/storage-furniture/outdoo... You don't even need a lock for it. If you can get the deliverymen to consistently place packages in it, the thieves will have no idea if there's actually a package at your door to steal…

I've been wondering why Amazon oriented their smart lock delivery service to an orwellian camera and lock in the home setup instead of hooked to an outdoor box like this.

Because they want to deliver groceries into your fridge in the near future.

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Post by MagicPropmaker »

will_brown wrote: post #512

I just told this story on HN, but my car window was smashed on 10/13/18 and the theives got my wallet and house keys. They used my credit card at foot locker (~$500), The Store Manager confirmed two guys made the purchase and corporate said they would turn over the video if police just ask. A month later the bank fraud dept informed me someone was trying to cash a fake check ($1,600) against my account at an ATM usin…

You can get the business to hand over their records by suing "John Doe" in court, getting a judgement, and then getting a subpoena. The banks losses aren't yours but you can sue for your uninsured damages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_subpoena

Call an attorney!

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Post by ryanmercer »

root_axis wrote: post #674
ryanmercer wrote: post #523

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>Nothing you've listed here precludes fakery. You think he can get a decent engineering job, especially for a government agency, in the future with a viral public hoax on his record? Yeah, probably not and YouTube isn't going to rake in money forever, not that he uploads often enough to be anywhere near a top earner anyway.

> You think he can get a decent engineering job, especially for a government agency, in the future with a viral public hoax on his record? Who cares? Those are arbitrary rationalizations that didn't necessarily factor into the creator's reasoning; you're simply projecting post facto reasoning that supports your preconceived conclusions. People who fall for scams and fakes use this same flawed reasoning all the time:…

> you're simply projecting post facto

He literally says it's not a prank video, that he doesn't do that. He has a solid reputation both as an engineer and as a YouTuber for being scientific and factual, 4 videos ago he showed a fake video from another YouTube user and explained how to help yourself determine when a video is fake...

His videos already get millions of views - his top 5 are nearly 1/4 of a billion views at 99 million, 46 million, 32 million, 31 million, 28 million, even his less popular ones easily clear multiple millions.

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Post by mdorazio »

alkonaut wrote: post #556
darkarmani wrote: post #519

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Not inside the US. There is no expectation of privacy when you are in public .

Not here either - I can take a photo of anyone in the street. However, I can’t mount a fixed surveillance camera on my house and do the same (for some reason).

Please provide a citation on this.
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