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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by movedx »

nola-radar wrote: post #690
gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

The s3 outage covered all regions.

Really? Even Australia? Can you provide evidence of this so I know for any clients that call me today? :)

EDIT: Found my answer. "Just to stress: this is one S3 region that has become inaccessible, yet web apps are tripping up and vanishing as their backend evaporates away." -- https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/28/aws_is_awol_as_s3_g...

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by problems »

foxylion wrote: post #723
problems wrote: post #623

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's completely ridiculous, get some fucking RAID Amazon. I order drives off newegg directly to my DC and I'm yet to lose data with the cheapest drives available in RAID10.

It's not just a RAID that can fail. And everyone who uses AWS should expect failures. You should build your infrastructure to handle such failures well.

They offer no RAID on local storage and only the expensive, IO restricted EBS as an alternative.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by cgag »

mwfj wrote: post #196
tlogan wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These service health boards are more like advertisement page then actual status of the service.

I guess their bizarre thinking is something along the lines of: "unless we have proof that noone can access the service, we won't change the indicator from green to yellow. Seriously: I don't understand why you guys stay with AWS.

Postgres on RDS

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by movedx »

gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

My advice is: don't keep your eggs in one basket. AZs a localised redundancy, but as Cloud is cheap and plentiful, you should be using two or more regions, at least, to house your solution (if it's important to you.)

EDIT: less arrogant. I need a coffee.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by boulos »

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud.

Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4):

https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability

and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to storage.googleapis.com), and it works like a charm. Resumable uploads work differently between us, but honestly since we let you do up to 5TB per object, I haven't needed to bother yet.

Again, Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (and we've had our own outages!).

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by rajangdavis »

wsh91 wrote: post #668
rajangdavis wrote: post #624

Hate to ask, but does anybody now of an alternative storage solution? Also, anyone have any alternative to Heroku for now?

Google Cloud Storage (as mentioned) for storage, Google App Engine for PaaS. :) (I work on Cloud, specifically Datastore.)

Thanks for the recommendation; is there a way to do back ups?

For example, I have images and various assets stored on S3; would there be a way to change the storage provider on the fly on a website?

The other case is could I have apps hosted on Heroku and set up a service to duplicate the app code and database over to Google for redundancy? This isn't super critical as the apps are not customer focused, but they generate content that is customer focused.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by jacquesm »

movedx wrote: post #734
gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

My advice is: don't keep your eggs in one basket. AZs a localised redundancy, but as Cloud is cheap and plentiful, you should be using two or more regions, at least, to house your solution (if it's important to you.) EDIT: less arrogant. I need a coffee.

Two different vendors if you can afford it. It's a bit of a hassle though.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by gamache »

movedx wrote: post #734
gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

My advice is: don't keep your eggs in one basket. AZs a localised redundancy, but as Cloud is cheap and plentiful, you should be using two or more regions, at least, to house your solution (if it's important to you.) EDIT: less arrogant. I need a coffee.

But now you're talking about added effort. Multi-AZ on AWS is easy and fairly automatic, multi-region (and multi-provider) not so much. It's easy to say things like this, but people who can do ops are not cheap and plentiful.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by jacquesm »

twistedpair wrote: post #540
gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

Amen. We setup our company cloud 2 years ago in US-West-2 and have never looked back. No outage to date.

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