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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by sbov »

usaphp wrote: post #11
artmageddon wrote: post #3

$160 for the AirPods? My goodness those are expensive.

I recently paid $350+ for Bose wireless noise cancelling headphones, the problem with over the ear headphones is that I can't wear them for a long time while I work for example, my head become hot and I want to hear what is around. I like the weight of the regular iphone headphones, I can wear them indefinitely, I am pretty sure case will be the same with AirPods, so I think the price is justified.

Honest question: why would you buy noise cancelling headphones for situations when you want to hear what is around? Did you buy them for other use cases and also decide to use them at work?

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by stormbeta »

acomjean wrote: post #42
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

I've switched entirely to Bluetooth headphones, but I'm with you - there are plenty of downsides to wireless headsets even with lossless audio protocols like aptx. And water resistance is still possible - my Z5C can be used in pouring rain and it still has a 3.5mm jack.

I'm also worried about the potential for consumer-hostile DRM on audio playback, especially since it looks like they're introducing their own proprietary wireless protocol.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Dylan16807 »

DigitalJack wrote: post #590
anthonybsd wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. Is your car older than 3 years? If not, what prevents you from listening to audio via USB?

I only just got a car that has an AUX jack. Cars are expensive. I pay mine off and keep it for 10 or more years.

And thankfully before aux jacks there were tape decks.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by exception_e »

tedmiston wrote: post #704
tebruno99 wrote: post #183

I'm not even upset about the headphone jack. Whatever. I'm really upset because you won't be able to do the following: 1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. 2.) Listening to music at desk and still have enough charge for the Audio+GPS for the drive home. 3.) No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up…

> 3.) No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up and plug it back in during my sleep. Can you really sleep with earbuds in? In that use case, I use the device's speaker.

Sure can! http://www.sleepphones.com/

I wear these each night and listen to relaxation videos such as ASMR [0]. Many people in that community use these.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_sensory_meridian_re...

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by shams93 »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Apple may make more money on people having to replace an easy to use headphone conveter for $99. The original android spec for 1.0 based on the HTC g1 reference device had a hardeware keyboard like Blackberry but it had all digital audio. You needed a micro usb to 8th inch convertor which was really easy to lose. After the lessons learned with the g1, subsequent Android phones added in the 8th inch audio jack and lost the hardware keyboard. There's a reason why the 8th inch is such a big deal its a standard that goes back to the 1880s.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Dylan16807 »

sxcurry wrote: post #608

Well, it's official - Apple has failed again! Doomed I tell you, doomed! Forget the performance enhancements, better battery life, fantastic new cameras, etc, etc - I have to use a new earbud cable. Plus, Jony Ive is going around putting super glue in all the old iPhone audio jacks, so I can't even use my existing earbuds with my existing iPhone. Plus, Apple is charging me $0.00 for the adapter so that I can use my r…

Oh gee you sure saw right through those people. Definitely true that that only possibilities are "every decision is correct" and "utter doomed failure". I'm glad you were here to remove all nuance.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by adolfoabegg »

iaskwhy wrote: post #380
adolfoabegg wrote: post #92

They didn't mention wireless charging, did they?

That's a good question as during the presentation of the new features, one of them was called "Wireless" and for a moment I thought "Oh, so that's it, wireless charging too so no need for that strange dongle to charge the phone while listening to music!"

I expected exactly the same. Wireless charging was the first thing that came to mind as a basic "wireless feature".

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by eric_cc »

deckard1 wrote: post #587
DCKing wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair to Apple, I think they have a good point. Digital connectors are superior in almost every way (space use, port flexibility, sound quality, even cable integrity). I admire them for ripping off the bandaid, like they did previously with disk drives and parrallel ports. Someone needs to lead the way to abandon legacy, and Apple can do that far more effectively than others (e.g. Motorola has also abandoned hea…

The thing is, we already have a lightning port. It's a thing that exists. We could already have lightning headphones and the current headphone jack. Together. Digital doesn't make up for the fact that we're moving from a near-universal standard headphone jack to a proprietary port. One that, mind you, is flat vs. round. The design of the headphone jack is superior. You can plug it in at any angle, and rotate it while…

But won't wired headphones become niche for iPhone 7+? It seems most users will be fine using Bluetooth

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by ksk »

nicky0 wrote: post #663
ksk wrote: post #491

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple convinced me to upgrade from my 4S by intentionally slowing it down with every subsequent iOS update. I wouldn't have bought the 6S if I could put an older iOS on the 4S.

You really beleive that was intentional? Like there's some code there that says if running on 4S then run slow? I feel sorry for you.

> Like there's some code there that says if running on 4S then run slow?

Yes. It was fast and I was extremely happy with it when I bought it. After the update, its slow.

To spell it out - One code path is fast, one code path is slow. They chose to force the latter upon us, as part of an intentional decision. I wish I could go back to the previous iOS version which was not slow, but Apple, intentionally block that with their DRM. Things which were instantaneous are now sluggish, ruining my experience after spending like 700 dollars. I could have gotten the same experience with an under-powered android phone for $50. Thanks Apple.

>I feel sorry for you.

How sorry do you feel? I mean .. thanks for being condescending and all, but I was just curious.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by mulmen »

finnh wrote: post #556

picture two friends in a car: "oh hey this music is the jam, let me play it for you." 5 minutes of dicking with bluetooth pairing later: "FUCKING BLUETOOTH GODDAMN IT. welp, never mind" (conversational lull follows)

I recently went on a trip with several friends and we rented a new Ford Expedition. The integrated audio system in the car supported multiple Bluetooth devices with a history (including previous renters) but as far as I could tell not more than once device at a time. Every time we started the car we had to select Sources -> Bluetooth -> Connect -> ${device name} -> Sources -> Bluetooth -> ${device name}. It was a huge hassle and a 3.5mm cable would have been far easier and sounded better.
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