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> so they just leave De Beers to run around gouging consumers That's kind of missing the point. If diamonds were 5 bucks a piece, women would no longer be interested in receiving rings bejeweled by them. A woman wants a man who is financially secure. If you can't afford a shiny rock, you can't afford what's coming after it either, so there's no point.
From my perspective, this comment has some truth, but is a little off also. When I was single, I found the Epstein article compelling. Then, I met the right woman, and I realized the article missed the point. If a woman you love feels good because you got her a diamond ring, then the diamond has served its purpose (to communicate that you listened to what she wanted, and got it, and that she is important). I listened…
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> Wanting the respect of others in your peer group is sad now? Wanting superficial respect based on material things is sad.
Why do you care what the respect is based on? What differentiates "superficial" respect from genuine respect? I guarantee you the criteria you use to judge people look equally ridiculous to other people too.
And to drive the point home: those diamonds you see in rings have a non-negligible chance of coming from child slaves, who have been torn from their families in civil war and will probably be setting off land mines once the diamond mines run out. I actively disrespect the choice to purchase them.
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> so they just leave De Beers to run around gouging consumers That's kind of missing the point. If diamonds were 5 bucks a piece, women would no longer be interested in receiving rings bejeweled by them. A woman wants a man who is financially secure. If you can't afford a shiny rock, you can't afford what's coming after it either, so there's no point.
>A woman wants a man who is financially secure. If you can't afford a shiny rock, you can't afford what's coming after it either, so there's no point. What a quaint and gross way of looking at the world.
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I'm not sure what your point is.
Maybe I'd like to work for a company that gives me a yacht, but I'm not going to demand a yacht as terms of employment.
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He explicitly doesn't, his whole point was to say that the ways of expressing affluence differ between regions and culture.
That point was made, then completely dismissed when stating that the "majority" of women demand a man that can provide a diamond.
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If the girl is even slightly intelligent she'll be able to make an assessment without needing a glittery ring. Maybe you think that flashing your wealth, not unlike a peacock fanning out their feathers, will get you a mate. It probably will, but it will probably be the kind of mate that is attracted to money.
All mates are attracted to money, some are simply more attracted than others. > If the girl is even slightly intelligent she'll be able to make an assessment without needing a glittery ring. Because she's clairvoyant? An expensive car can be rented or borrowed, a house can be inherited, bank statements easily faked. Men do these sorts of things. Frequently. But a ring she has been pining on and on about? A ring she c…
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>>Part of it is attraction, but it's also part pragmatic. Understandable, Why.. Continue reading.. >>Women are still the ones that, disproportionately, compromise their careers to take care of children. Sorry. women 'want' to compromise their careers and take care of the kids. I'm not saying raising kids isn't tough. But most men I know will happily stay back at home and take care of the kids, if the their wives woul…
Yes, and given that women are more likely to pick raising kids, then it becomes important to partner with a man who makes good money. It seems like you agree with the person you're responding to.
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He explicitly doesn't, his whole point was to say that the ways of expressing affluence differ between regions and culture.
That point was made, then completely dismissed when stating that the "majority" of women demand a man that can provide a diamond.
>That doesn't mean that every woman here absolutely requires a man who can buy her a diamond, but the majority do.
right after talking about the US--meaning I was discussing women here in the US, where it is demonstrably true that the majority of women demand diamonds.