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Including them is.
Not if they are straight and white, which is a disproportionate amount of socially awkward geeks
Exactly, and only if they're politically aligned and don't question the narrative.
GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values
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That's a really crazy number of employees considering they have one product that barely seems to change and is at best on par with similar products created by comparatively miniscule teams (Phabricator, Forgejo).
It would be interesting to see the breakdown on technical vs non-technical roles. I can't imagine it takes even 50% of that to actually develop the product.
There are 800 on the engineering team
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They have 2800 employees with 5-10 reports per manager.
That's a really crazy number of employees considering they have one product that barely seems to change and is at best on par with similar products created by comparatively miniscule teams (Phabricator, Forgejo).
GitLab is a way more complex product
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8 layers of management??? At gitlabs team size, that means every manager has 2-3 reports? Yeah, I'd be cutting layers too.
Gitlab has approx. 2300 employees (!) I never really got why they need to be a public company in the first place.
2800, many are sales roles though.
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> You can end up with a lot of people talking about it a lot, lots of meetings and initiatives rather than doing actual work. And usually those don't go anywhere because the people doing it don't have any power to actually change things. Someone I'm close to is going through this right now. They work at a place that officially highly values "inclusion", and their employer's website is dripping with virtue-signaling l…
You need audits and Blind-like channels to augment self reports.
I think internal organizations of employees of various shapes (unions, affinity groups, "employee resource groups") can be useful for diversity and inclusion issues. But you also need budgets and power and integration with other departments. HR needs to care about non-discriminatory hiring practices in a first-class way. Legal needs to see ensuring good-faith legal compliance with the requirements of the ADA before anyone brings a lawsuit as part of their mandate.
Anonymous, third-party outlets for complaints like Blind can also likely be useful. Even at companies that never punish anyone for criticizing the company, participation rates in internal surveys are typically atrociously low, and people stop speaking up even informally if it's clear to them that nobody actually acts on employee feedback. Most companies probably perceive such channels of communication as threats, though.
Idk about audits. I worry that it's easy for them to become their own circus and overhead without materially improving things. But you may be right.
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If you ignore all the complexity and discard every detail, it’s literally just a box . Yet curiously you aren’t living in a cardboard box, or an aluminum shed. Point being, which you know and are being willfully ignorant about, is that it’s more complex than that. And you’ve neatly discarded the detail that they’re multi modal. I will freely admit though, analogy is useless when interacting with someone who has alrea…
Well that’s the problem with arguing through analogy, when you’re wrong you just come out looking like a Fucking Dork. Truly your analogy isn’t wrong, it’s just that you are wrong. A house is a box and it needs walls on each side and a roof like a box. But it’s good to remember that it’s supposed to be a box. That might sound overly reductive, but it’s important to keep the fundamentals in mind in case someone tries…
It’s overly reductive to the point of being wrong yes. You’re being intentionally obtuse. Then again your brain is just some electric meat so why would you be capable of more?
Good job calling it a token predictor instead of text autocomplete btw, you’re making progress, my wonderful analogies have already begun to enlighten you. You’ll achieve some nuance yet.
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#728Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you say suck it fascist in response to DEI being removed, Re-read the thread. They made a joke about acronyms.
initial comment - 'gitlab no more dei' secondary comment - 'suck it fascist' third comment - 'fascism and communism would both get rid of dei' whereabouts did the room get misread?
> initial comment - 'gitlab no more dei'
You picked out a phrase of a larger post and misconstrued any response as applying that context. Trying to understand how it might be interpreted by other people is expected. What you've been doing is sometimes characterized as being myopic.
How other people read this exchange is trivial enough to summarize:
* initial comment - new acronym, less clever (CREDIT -> SQOMCO)
* secondard comment - "Suck it fascists" (contemporary/funny acronym)
* third comment - 'fascism and communism would both get rid of dei' (out of place)
I'm sorry that you didn't understand what was going on. Maybe you're embarrassed. The ongoing verbal vomit seems willful and pointless, but you do you.
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Gitlab has approx. 2300 employees (!) I never really got why they need to be a public company in the first place.
That's mad. Gitlab feels like software made by 50 people. Consider how unpolished it is and how slow it is moving.
> Consider how unpolished it is and how slow it is moving
Probably because a lot of it is built on top of decades old ruby code. I've seen Merge Requests for months in review because they need to make sure the page doesn't take a minute to load or just crash the entire thing. And its not like those MRs were ground breaking.
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#730> Great engineers are problem solvers and builders who care about system design, distributed systems, reasoning through failures, safely integrating new capability into critical systems, and making decisions under ambiguity. Yes, and the people who are all-in on agentic AI are, in practically every example I’ve seen, not that. They’re the jackasses giving Claude root access to their prod DB and then writing a blog po…
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