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Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by stackedinserter »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #434
turtlesdown11 wrote: post #325

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> Send them fresh water and electricity? They tried it with Gaza, didn't help. yes, one cannot imagine why keeping millions of people in an open air concentration camp doesn't work out well

> open air concentration camp Nitpick: the analogy is an open-air prison. Because prisons usually have ceilings. Open-air concentration camp is just a concentration camp, which doesn't really appropriately describe a siege.

It's (was) neither prison nor concentration camp. It wasn't even "occupied" by Israel. Last Israelis were forced to move out 20 years ago, and never came back.

That piece of land could be heaven on earth with all support that they received.

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

guzfip wrote: post #684
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #551

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> Which were supposed to have WW1 era appearance because Trump is an "aesthetics guy" and doesn't like the look of modern stealth ships. Wait, that's actually based as fuck. The 20th-century battleships were the pinnacle of human architecture, let him have this one.

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Not autistic, but if that's what autism is I certainly wouldn't want a cure for having a personality. God forbid somebody find something visually appealing, wouldn't that be a crime against the raw efficiency of making everything on the planet a drab grey box. It's a stupid vanity project with no practical purpose, if billions are going to be wasted on it anyways why not let it be eye-pleasing?

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by dudefeliciano »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #660
dudefeliciano wrote: post #309

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Is he doing anything that is hindering Putin? That theory still very much holds. Both Putin and Netanyahu can realistically have kompromat on him, seeing how incredibly brazen and stupid he is.

Only decimating his biggest allies. Putin prob loves that

Do you mean the replacing of the old Khamenei with a younger, more vigorous and extreme Khamenei? Utterly destroying the world economy (as well as the environment, but who cares about that) for what gain specifically? Or do you mean decimating the US allies in Europe and the West?

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by dudefeliciano »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #695
smallmancontrov wrote: post #276

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I don't know if Trump could walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, but he sure seems able to screw Ukraine and bomb Iran at the same time. He just finished sending Vance to Hungary to stump for Orban, too. The love affair between far-right authoritarian leaders is not a 2 person relationship.

I'm sure Ukraine is really disappointed that the Shahed supply has dried up

I'm sure China is really sad that the US is using up all its critical missile supplies in a senseless war

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by pphysch »

stackedinserter wrote: post #721
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #434

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> open air concentration camp Nitpick: the analogy is an open-air prison. Because prisons usually have ceilings. Open-air concentration camp is just a concentration camp, which doesn't really appropriately describe a siege.

It's (was) neither prison nor concentration camp. It wasn't even "occupied" by Israel. Last Israelis were forced to move out 20 years ago, and never came back. That piece of land could be heaven on earth with all support that they received.

Is that how you rationalize Native American Tribal Reservations as well? Heaven on earth? A privileged gift from the white man?

Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by ex-aws-dude »

Detrytus wrote: post #557
tdb7893 wrote: post #101

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My experience is that people will be able to justify anything that is "normal". I went vegan after learning too much of how the literal sausage is made and the amount of people who have unprompted (people are weird about it so I try to avoid talking about being vegan except for mentioning it quickly while declining food) said something along the lines of "factory farming is awful but I just love bacon" and laugh is l…

I grew up watching my grandmother butchering a chicken for a Sunday dinner. Or my uncle butchering and skinning the calf. Knowing how the sausage is made does nothing for me. I can understand someone being vegan because they believe eating plants is healthier. I can understand being vegan because you don’t like the taste of meat. But bringing any moral/religious reasons for it always seemed silly to me. There’s nothi…

> There’s nothing more natural than one animal eating another

So how do you get from that to human cannibalism == bad?

The naturalism argument has a zillion counterexamples of things that used to be considered natural and now we arbitrarily consider bad.

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Post by kelipso »

DangitBobby wrote: post #667
kelipso wrote: post #595

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He’s not making a might is right argument.

Yes he is. "Nothing more natural than one animal eating another" is might makes right. It's also an appeal to nature, but in this case it's both.

Weaker animals can eat stronger animals. Pack animals, carrion feeders, bugs, animals feeding their offspring, etc. So almost entirely an appeal to nature argument.

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Post by [deleted] »

reverius42 wrote: post #603
kelipso wrote: post #593

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Carnivores need to eat other animals to live. If a living thing needs to do something to live, then almost all cases, there is a very defensible argument for it being moral.

And humans aren't obligate carnivores.

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Re: Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by kelipso »

reverius42 wrote: post #603
kelipso wrote: post #593

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Carnivores need to eat other animals to live. If a living thing needs to do something to live, then almost all cases, there is a very defensible argument for it being moral.

And humans aren't obligate carnivores.

The argument is over whether a certain thing is moral or not. I argue that it is because carnivores need to do that to survive. Humans don't but does that affect whether that thing is moral or not?

Then you would have to argue that an omnivore eating meat is immoral while a carnivore eating meat is moral. I wouldn't enjoy defending that statement.

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