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Our commitment to Windows quality

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by bombcar »

dmos62 wrote: post #594
tw061023 wrote: post #435

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Linux the kernel is fundamentally inferior to NT from 30 years ago, Linux the userspace is barely tolerable, Linux as an ecosystem is an amateur clownshow barely held together by corporate donations of drivers and absolute dedication of a handful of volunteers of wildly differing skill. If your biggest innovation of a decade is a carbon copy of a feature introduced in NT 3.5 in 1994 AND THEN it turns out most serious…

I've only heard once or twice people talking highly of NT. Care to go into more depth?

NT was originally designed along the lines of a microkernel though in NT 4 they violated the rules and put the graphics driver in ring 0 (iirc) and didn't undo that until around Vista, I believe.

Technology-wise, Windows NT and it's APIs is well developed and designed.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

ray_v wrote: post #479
lloydatkinson wrote: post #384

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How? I feel like every time I do my ~1 yearly Windows reinstall I need to google it and then alter half a dozen registry keys and a bunch of group policy settings, and some of them are the "old" settings now replaced with something even more vaguely named (probably on purpose).

Ok, I'll bite ... why are you reinstalling and reconfiguring windows on a regular, yearly basis?

I also reinstall fresh Linux every year or two. Forces you to confront all of the cruft that can accumulate.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by Gigachad »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #457
Someone1234 wrote: post #170

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I just don't think people like having something shoved down their throats. The dedicated Copilot button on keyboards and adding Copilot shortcuts all over the OS (and automatic popups/ads) was far too far. I think OS level integrations that are opt-in, not opt-out, may even be popular. But they have to be done carefully and tastefully.

What about office 365 that became Microsoft copilot 365 ? Talk about shoving copilot down the throat lol.

What actually _is_ copilot? Is it a set of office programs? A plugin for VS code?

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by ekianjo »

dmos62 wrote: post #195

I'm somewhat surprised that Windows is still most of personal computers. In my eyes, it's fundamentally inferior to Linux, and its superficial superiority only comes from the ecosystem, which is to say adoption, not some inherent trait. But then, since Linux adoption didn't meaningfully change in the last 20 years, I'm forced to confront the fact that either I'm wrong about its fundamentals, or the market is able to…

You have a market that's locked by Microsoft working with OEMs and Microsoft spraying money around to ensure that nobody ever seriously consider switching. Add to that that Windows is used as a surveillance tool by the three letter agencies and you have the perfect storm for things not to change.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by Gigachad »

threetonesun wrote: post #118
nixpulvis wrote: post #109

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So Apple Intelligence doesn't bother you?

Apple Intelligence is basically unseen in day to day use.

This is it. You can easily disable the whole thing with one toggle, and even when it's on it never gets in your face.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by Gigachad »

dbalatero wrote: post #177
kriz9 wrote: post #154

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As a long time windows user I have no regrets making the switch. If it wouldn't be for the games I would not touch windows at all.

I've gone fully to Linux and all my games surprisingly run. I was ready to ditch some but I even got Blizzard stuff working which was my main concern.

I put bazitte on my desktop and left it connected to the TV. It's the most seamless linux distro I've ever used. Been using it for a year now purely with an xbox controller.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by nandomrumber »

econ wrote: post #678
999900000999 wrote: post #499

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Normal people can not install an OS. Aside from like 3 ThinkPads on Lenovo's website, you can't really buy Linux pre installed on a computer. This is about the MacBook Neo coming for the budget laptop market. At 500$ it's an easy choice.

That might be what they think. I just installed windows and it had countless dialogs. Most have a reason to exist but it's a lot of work. The Ubuntu live usb on the other hand just boots into the desktop environment. It just works? There is nothing to do?

Puppy Linux and Fedora also have sane defaults.

I hadn’t tried Fedora until late last year, and was very impressed. Came across as highly polished and complete.

Hadn’t tried Pupply Linux until a couple months ago, and it’s now my new favourite. I’m now running it on a small form factor desktop HP with no internal drive.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by Gigachad »

natas wrote: post #151

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

This is actually true though. If you look at the revenue breakdown for Microsoft, windows is relatively small. It's Azure and Office that make up the lions share. Those are also the growth sectors. No matter how good you make Windows, you won't sell more licenses because everyone who wants a PC already has one. The only thing they need to do is prevent people moving to Mac, which historically hasn't been a huge risk.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by nout »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #314
chistev wrote: post #287

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What about Macs, you use those?

I have never tried one, I'm not interested in Apple's walled garden approach. Buying a Macbook and being unable to put a (properly working) alternative OS on it if I don't like the one on it is a non-starter to me.

You can put linux on the older Macs. I have 2015 Macbook with Debian and everything works very smoothly.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by Aperocky »

gnarlouse wrote: post #719
aeternum wrote: post #527

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Much of big tech became Product leaders running amok. Somehow It shifted from users know best to "Product" knows best. I think this all stemmed everyone wanting to be Apple except no one actually achieved it and now we have 3 different versions of the audio control panel in Windows, the start button is somehow in the middle of the screen, and windows search no longer searches your PC. Deleting "Product" might save wi…

Apple achieved it with Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Apple then spent ~15 years un-achieving it. It started with iOS 7, and has culminated in the Liquid (Gl)ass era: a mess of unintuitive menus, terrible and inconsistent UI patterns, the lobotomite twins Siri & Apple Intelligence. Although, surprisingly, built on top of absolutely incredible silicon.

It has posix shell, all is forgiven, can't complain about UI patterns that I never interact with.
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